for not declaring my earnings for tax purposes

[sneakylady]

I have a very small business and do cash in hand work a few hours a week and earn £30 - £60 a week, no more, so not exactly a fortune. I have been doing it about 6 months, it comes in handy. dh works, doesn't earn loads, about 23k, we have two little DC. we use it towards the food bill usually.

And I have NO intention of declaring it as it will screw up our already measly tax credits. In fact, I actually feel quite smug for doing it, as we get screwed enough in this country and have every last drop of money squeezed out of us in petrol prices, gas and electric food prices, property prices etc so why shouldn't we keep something for us?

my intention is to slowly build my business then when both DC are at school I will go "legit" and declare it all. AIBU?

Thanks! I've got private pension anyhow, albeit tiny. I think opting out might be best. Will look into properly though, dont owrry.

Jimswife - you can also claim back the class 2 contributions you have paid at the end of the tax year (after you've done your return) so if you do decide to opt out, you might want to do that for this year.

details and form here www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/Taxes/BeginnersGuideToTax/NationalInsurance/Refundscomplaintsandreportingchanges/DG_190117

Don't believe for a minute that this was a windup. I am glad you seem to have had the wind put up you though, and hopefully you will quit breaking the law and own up to working.

How bloody stupid can people be?!

Wind-up my arse!

You are fraudulently claiming TC and not filing income tax returns (although clearly you don't owe any tax). and you don't like (and quite obviously didn't expect) what other people are saying OP.

Get it sorted before and you may well end up having to pay back the tax credits you have wrongfully claimed and spent but that should be the last of it.

big business seldom gets reported the accountant handles it.

I'm not about to report anyone, but tbh I think everyone ought to pay the appropriate level of tax. With such a small amount you may well not be liable for much, if any, anyway (sorry if this has been clarified already, but I haven't read the whole thread).

Let he who is without sin throw the first stone.

Let he who is without sense resurrect old thread.

MNHQ - please keep this thread, otherwise you'll be destroying evidence

Would you ring up the Tax office and use the name 'sneakylady?'

Just realised this is an old thread...

As long as you realise that it's a criminal offence and if you ever get caught, you risk a criminal record and not only will you have to pya the tax you over anyway, you will get a heavy HEAVY fine.

I would imagine that would be more painful than actually paying the tax.

As for measly tax credits?! What is it with people who want something they're not entitled to. You're lucky you get anything tbh. My ex DP is from South Africa. Out there if you don't work, you don't eat.

It isn't that old though valium. It's foolish to say on a public website that you're willingly and knowingly breaking the law.

I wonder if HMRC saw this thread, they could demand that MNHQ hand over this ladies details. They probably could you know.

Fool the OP is.

But you can earn £7k tax free, so what's the problem.

Hi, I'm new here. I used to post somewhere where everyone did things like this (cheat), and occasionally would say that they had posted elsewhere and everyone had been really judgemental. I left after a while as I work very hard for a living and grew to resent those who think they can cheat while the rest of us get up early to go to work and do it all the right way.

I am therefore of the opinion that it would be wrong to work under the table and I am happy that other people think the same way. I like mumsnet for this reason. I think it is a better place than the last place I used to post. I think the people are cleverer and more decent.

I think you need to be very careful, OP. Even if you are making it up to gauge reactions as a Reverse AIBU, I'd stop right now. Even if you are whiter than white tax-wise, do you want your / our / my tax £s spent investigating you unnecessarily?

HMRC debts never go away. Death and taxes are unavoidable. Even after bankruptcy you will owe HMRC until you the day you die. Other debts will be written off, but tax, student loans and child -support are priority debts and will always have to be paid.

Except that there are a million ways to get around the child-support aspect as countless MNers XHs have shown

Read some but not all so apologies if this is a repeat. I'm assuming, after getting screwed by this country, you're expecting adequate healthcare for your kids when they need it? It has to be paid for but clearly not by you. By that token, you're screwing my husband... how very dare you!

i hope you get caught, really pisses me off when people do this.

'I actually feel quite smug for doing it, as we get screwed enough in this country and have every last drop of money squeezed out of us in petrol prices, gas and electric food prices, property prices etc so why shouldn't we keep something for us?'

Congratulations You presumably get tax credits?? Which my husband and I help to pay for, since we're too stupid/honest to try tax evasion? Well done. We have to pay the same too for petrol and utilities but, hey, we have to pay for ours... hope the Revenue catches up with you.

I'm not sure it was a wind-up neither as someone said earlier upthread, HMRC don't give you a slapped wrist they hang, draw and quarter you! I've known businesses go under because they didn't declare a few hours here and there. I can understand why people were so angry though, mostly at the smugness of the comment I think. It's not a case of If they catch you but WHEN & personally I wouldn't want that responsibility over my own head x

You dont pay enough to be liable for income tax. If its worrying you call HMR.C I find them really really helpful its not worth the worry.