To say what the flippity fu*k?!

[HowlingBitch]

I just cannot believe this. Is this mother on MN if so.... WTF misses?

I think it really is time for me to leave mn.

I'm having a Proustian flashback to the last time I came across this exchange.

This thread is topicshifting now. Or is it targetsniping?

Anyway, to indulge in topicshifting myself: in gymnastics, they use parallel bars, don't they? That's two poles. Two poles is better than one!

Erm, I DO know the meaning of it thank you Altinkum. I did study basic history at school/college. One word - two different meanings.

There are lots of references to "huns" on MN at the moment. I assume I am right in thinking that we are referring to the text mis-spelling of "honey" as "huny" and NOT a "vague nod" to the huns as in the Germanic tribe.

This place is fucking nuts at the minute.

altinkum - is this really the first time you've noticed the word "hun" on mn? I recognise your name - you're not that new. What about the last fortnight, when there have been threads and threads on the subject of "Huns and the retreat of the Byzantine mn empire"?

That IS what I meant, sovery.

It just so happens that on MN, there is a poster who knows an offensive alternative for EVERY FUCKING WORD, so posting can be a minefield...

Thank you, altinkum. I shall make very sure I don't say it in your town.

It really does just refer to txtspkers here, though.

(And the implications of that have been done to death elsewhere, so ....)

Surely though, here on MN, most of us are aware of the term 'Huns' as a NM/fluffy/sparkly/lol-ing term.

Not sectarian violence which hasn't got much to do with pole-dancing children afaik.

Oops. I didn't mean to send that. I'm feeling crotchety today - and will go and do something else.

What I have to say is this: altinkum - I can see that for you this word has a meaning, and there's no getting away from it. My supervisor used the word "Jesuit" to me the other day as a synonym for "untrustworthy" - really. I cringed. It's horrible. Especially when there are ongoing cts of violence in the background.

On the plus side - on mn they really, really don't mean the word that way - though that probably won't stop you flinching when you read it.

It's also deeply embedded in mn - so won't change. And "hun" really isn't that well known in the soft, swelling anglican enclaves south of the border.

I am glad, however, that your government takes verbal hate crimes so seriously.

And I do get that this is a widely-known term of abuse, rather than something you've dreamt up. All I can say, again, is that it isn't well-known in the south.

And I am sorry for that earlier crotchety post.

Never heard of it either apart from sparkles and hugs, talk about a context jump.

There's not many sports were you can wear hot pants and crop tops as offical attire, its the future!

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altinkum - she really didn't mean that definition of the Huns - she really did mean the weirdo mummies who use "hun" as aterm of endearment - usually accompanied by "little princesses" , lol, xxx, bad punctuation (or not at all) and have tickers.

Altinkum, another Englisher here who had no idea at all that 'hun' had that offensive meaning, and I expect 90% of MNers don't either - they're not being insensitive, they genuinely don't know.

I think when bupcakes said she knew it had another meaning she was referring to the ancient tribe 'the Huns'?

Oh and sorry, didn't mean to brush off someone you knew being killed. Horrible.

I am from the sunny south coast and I have honestly never heard the term 'Huns' used for anything else but sparkly princesses. I knew about the divisions and violence in Scotland, of course, but not what names are used.

In that context, I can understand why you feel sensitive - I am sorry that someone you know has been killed.

Every day is a school day, as they say.

Dragging this kicking and screaming back to the op: I have seen some daft naive bint woman on tv reckoning she could establish pole dancing as a leotard clad gymnastics event, and if it wasn't already part of the sex industry then, yes, it could have been done. I saw her and colleagues perform; v. impressive, not commercial parody of 'sex'. The Australian bloke was good, too. I've also seen traditional Asian male performers. This confirms my idea that feminism has focussed solely on women's behaviour and getting access to men's privileges, roles and positions. We also need to get men to be more like women; less violent, more responsive, more 'object', less 'subject'. All in favour of boys dancing.

"It may well have two meanings, doesn't mean that its acceptable, Think I will go about Hi-fiving people and call them gay, after all it has two meanings so that makes it OK"

That is totally different and you know it. Hun is a mis-spelling of honey, so actually hun, in this instance means honey. Nothing offensive in that, one would think.

I am so sorry that I am not au fait with derogatory terms used in your particular area of your country.

I'm in Scotland and have never heard hun being used as anything other than short for honey as in a term of endearment and around here it is used widely.

Anyhoo, back to the OP - I don't think I'd be keen on my DS doing pole dancing as a form of sport! + He'd probably think I'd lost my mind.

Did you see the woman in one of those Closer type magazines who gave her 7 year old A FUCKING VOUCHER FOR BREAST IMPLANTS WHEN SHE'S 16 AS A BIRTHDAY PRESENT????????????????

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