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child maintenance- advice needed

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leanny · 11/06/2011 16:05

hi there, i have twin girls who are 8, their dad lives in reading we live up north i also have 2 sons with my partner. Since my girls were 3 their dad has been payin £200pcm maintenance via a private agreement, however a few months ago i discovered he had a change of job and was earning a lot more so i asked him to up the maintenance to which he said no, so i got in touch with the csa to ask them to calculate what he should be paying. i told the girls dad what i was doing in hopes that it would keep things amicable which it did for a while, he basically told me he should be paying £750pcm but after all the 'extra costs' were taken off it would go down to £500, anyway he deducted £250 for his travel, accommodation and food for while he is visiting the girls which is once a month. anyway so far i have recieved 1 payment of 500 and am still waiting for the csa to get back to me with a final amount, its taking longer than usual as he's applied to have the variation costs taken off. the problem i have at the minute is that now he is telling me he is takin money out of the 500 he gives for when he sees the girls to take them places etc and do activities. also they are going to spain with him n his girlfriend at the end of jully, my partner and i had already agreed that 50 is a sufficient amount of spending money for an 8 yr old to take on holiday for a week, however their dad is saying he is taking 200 out of the money he gives me for their spendingnmoney etc, food, icecreams......
to me this strikes me as a bit unreasonable, it seems he is still trying to issue control over the money side, and me, he doesnt like paying what he does but legally its what he should right? can he deduct money thhis way or am i being unreasonable?
many thanks, leanne

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FreudianSlipper · 12/06/2011 10:27

£200 a month yes i am sure that covers part of the rent/mortgage, part of the bills (you need to pay these to home your children) plus food, clothes, shoes, school trips, outings the list is endless

of course he shoudl be paying more and why is it seen as greedy to want your children to have what not only deserve but should have by law. the children are the equal responsibility of both parents, sadly in many cases the responsibility not only for their emotional needs but financial costs weigh much heavier on one parent when they have split (more often than not beign the mother)

leanny · 12/06/2011 10:37

cricketballs- actually on numerous occasions when he was paying the 200, i asked him to pay more, and he said no!he knew i struggled with the girls on his 25 a week on occasion also when he would collect them i mentioned to him once they needed new school shoes (which i was to buy on the monday after school) but as he was seeing them on the sat it was easier for him to take them. he took 60 out of the 200 for the school shoes knowing full well that by his earnings he could have afforded to pay extra. u might see it as greed, but id like to ask what is your situation and if u was in this situation, 'getting by' on the 200 a month, just plodding on with it, would u not be the same?! like i said its not greed its merely following the rules, whats right for my children, and yes what doesnt get spent gets saved

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FreudianSlipper · 12/06/2011 10:45

also i would try and look for a mediation service that helps separated parents resolve issues such as maintenance. it is very difficult talking about money when it is regarding your children and not to get emotional and it turn into an argument. i was advised to go to the csa but preferred to go to a solicitor, my solicitor informed him of what he was expected to pay and an offer for him to come back with a reasonable offer (along with csa guidelines). this i think really helped, but the ball in his court and the csa can be very intrusive.

he has since then doubled what he pays, i am in a lucky position he does not have an issue with paying me money and me living comfortably too as it benefits his son, that helps along with him earning a very high wage. i know i could get quite a bit more than i do through the csa but we are comfortable so feel no need (i get £800pm)

leanny · 12/06/2011 10:48

we went to court and had a solicitior when the girls were 2 and contact and money got sorted then, however this time i think id rather just go through the csa as going via a solicitor would be to costly. he wouldnt pay for a solicitor he would just represent himself as he did all those years ago.

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FreudianSlipper · 12/06/2011 10:57

yes it did cost me a few hundred pounds

well i hope it all gets sorted very quickly and your girls get what they should be getting

DoMeDon · 12/06/2011 13:33

I honestly think people are missing the point when they say you could manage on less. This man has a responsibility to pay a fair percentage of his wage to support his DC. He should be pleased to do it. CSA shouldn't be necessary. When DH and I seperated, he gladly paid slightly more than CSA would have ordered. He didn't want us to struggle, he didn;t want me to have to 'manage', he wanted us to have a life too. That's normal - anything less is being a selfish arsehole IMHO.

leanny · 12/06/2011 13:42

domedon i completely agree lol

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cricketballs · 12/06/2011 16:02

leanny I only asked a question from what I gathered from your first post. You never said anything about not being able to manage on the £200 and that your ex took money from this to pay for shoes etc. There is no need to get so defensice when you haven't mentioned all the facts in the first place

cricketballs · 12/06/2011 16:05

defensive

SuePurblybilt · 12/06/2011 16:09

The CSA will backdate payments from when they opened the case won't they? So whatever he's decided to take off for his own reasons, they will be claiming back, if it means he's paid less than they say he should.No?

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