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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Original poster

Paul Anthony Wilson

63 replies

scoutingthomas · 07/06/2011 12:48

I would kill him.

I would.

I am not a violent person. I have never hit someone in my entire life. But, by Christ.... I believe that someone who is capable of rape. Rape of an innocent, indefensible small child.... I'm currently cuddling my nearly 2YO to sleep right now and I swear to god, I would kill anyone who touched her.

He doesn't deserve to have his 'human rights' considered. He hasn't acted like a human being.

Well, AIBU?

Because I will go to my grave thinking that I am not.

OP posts:
TheNightNurse · 08/06/2011 00:29

montmartre

How on earth is paedophilia a mental illness???

montmartre · 08/06/2011 00:30

How on earth is it not a mental illness?

Do you think someone who finds children sexually attractive is normal or of sound mind?

GypsyMoth · 08/06/2011 00:31

Why do some of them go to broadmoor?

TheNightNurse · 08/06/2011 00:35

Paedophiles detained in Broadmoor will have a co-mormid diagnosis. In order to be detained under the MHA, there must be available treatment to prevent worsening of a condition.

I do not believe there is any treatment that can alter a persons sexual preference.

Of course, I do not consider them to be "normal" or of "sound mind" I am saying it is not something you can treat - as in say schizophrenia.

montmartre · 08/06/2011 00:38

Sorry- is the terminology 'mental disorder' rather than 'mental illness' then?

If someone is untreatable, should they be put to death?

TheNightNurse · 08/06/2011 00:41

If someone is untreatable, should they be put to death?

If we're talking about paedophiles, then yeah, I reckon so.

montmartre · 08/06/2011 00:45

No-one has the right to take another life of any description.

Imprison, curtail freedoms, seek rehabilitation and atonement yes. Murder, no.

nancychew · 08/06/2011 00:46

Peace to you Tiffany. We scoff at the police but forget what you have to deal with. Hope all goes well with your daughter.

montmartre · 08/06/2011 00:49

May I ask why you scoff at the police Nancy? I do not know anyone that does...

TheNightNurse · 08/06/2011 00:51

Murder? Nah, just prescribe the bullet.

montmartre · 08/06/2011 00:53

Wow- I am just blown away by your reasoned argument there Hmm

nancychew · 08/06/2011 00:53

Really Monmartre? You are not aware that the police are often not held in the highest regard?

TheNightNurse · 08/06/2011 00:54

Trust me, I'm a nurse.

maras2 · 08/06/2011 00:55

Too distressed to read all the thread ,but how does a 20 year old become such a prolific paedophile ? Despite my liberal or even left wing views,I hope that that low life rots in either jail or hell.

GypsyMoth · 08/06/2011 01:04

When Colin hatch was arrested there was a fair bit if 'nastiness' towards us officers. He was on parole for other, lower level offences, there had been warnings from professionals involved with him that he would kill. Us officers were not allowed to watch him, or follow him, nothing. So some thought we just stood by and let it happen. We did. Because as police officers, we had no 'powers' to do anything about him in the community

nancychew · 08/06/2011 01:06

Tiffany, as I said we often forget ( or want to) what the police often have to deal with.

Joolyjoolyjoo · 08/06/2011 01:10

I really don't believe that paedophiles can be rehabilitated. I am sexually attracted to men. I really can't imagine any therapy that would change that fact. For that reason I believe that paedophiles should be removed from society indefinitely. I don't really condone the death penalty. If it was my child, a humane death would not seem enough Sad I also believe that the internet has allowed paedophilia to escalate- now these people can be in contact with "like-minded" individuals (boak) they can believe that they are not that "wrongly wired" after all. My guess is they gain confidence from each other, and begin to see their warped sexuality as acceptable- at least in those circles.

I do think there were always paedophiles, but, when I was younger, they were lonely individuals who realised they were odd. Seeing a young man of 20 prepared to act out, and record, his deviance makes me very sad and angry indeed. And to conciously put himself in a position where he has access to children chills me. This is not a guy who gave in to his base impulses in a weak moment. This is a guy who went out to indulge them. How can such a person be rehabilitated?

GypsyMoth · 08/06/2011 01:14

Nancy I left because of it.

TheNightNurse · 08/06/2011 01:15

What joo said.

They can't.

begonyabampot · 08/06/2011 01:18

Tiffany just been reading what you have said. Hope you feel you made the right decision and are more at peace now. Best wishes to you!

spiderslegs · 08/06/2011 01:46

& how do any of you think a 20 year old got into that position in the first place?

He was only a child himself a few years ago, do you think it spontaneously popped into his head?

Do you think he was the product of a loving & stable family?

Joo 'This is not a guy who gave in to his base impulses in a weak moment', so you think many men have these impulses - just keep them in check?

Yep, shoot the lot of 'em I say, he couldn't possibly be an irreparably damaged human being who comitted horrible acts because his mind was, in some way, skewed.

Maybe he was once the poor fucking child being buggered.

I see you've scared montmartre off. Maybe you'd like to go chase a few police vans with placards to celebrate.

TheNightNurse · 08/06/2011 02:03

I've got no placard, I just know a lot of paedo's and I've never known the successful rehabilitation of a single one. In fact, there's not really any effort at rehabilitation anyway. Unless you count cinema and trips to McDonalds...

spiderslegs · 08/06/2011 02:19

Ahh, good post Night

You can't rehabillitate
No-one does rehabilliate

Which one is true?

& please stop it with the peados.

They are peadophiles.

southofthethames · 08/06/2011 02:21

I think the research shows offenders of this kind can't be rehabilitated, many programs have been tried with very little success. Maybe about one person out of a thousand has not reoffended, but those 999 are still able to reoffend if released. Very sad indictment of the human race isn't it?

TheNightNurse · 08/06/2011 02:27

No, they're paedophiles.

I don't understand your post.

I said there 'wasn't much effort' which was poorly worded. To clarify, I meant the methods of/approach to 'rehabilitating' paedophiles is limited and largely unsuccessful.

That's only my opinion based on my experience.