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to be really fed up with irresponsible dog owners?

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ILoveYouToo · 03/06/2011 23:00

...Who ruin it for all of us responsible dog owners.

My dog poos.....there's no getting around this. But I either pick it up or I bury it in the sandy soil where we usually walk (I don't do this too often, as I don't want to add too many nutrients to the fauna-rich habitat where we walk). I despise the owners who leave great steaming dog turds on the paths, or (worse) hanging in bags in trees, like macabre christmas decorations. Hmm Angry

I keep my dog under control. My control isn't perfect, as I'm still training her, and she is liable to run past you, thinking intently about squirrels and rabbits. I am lucky that she has pretty much no interest in humans when we're on walks, but I will recall her if I see that an adult or child is scared of her. I think that dogs jumping up at or bothering people is unacceptable; it happens with mine very rarely, but when it does, I am extremely apologetic. If my dog was antisocial or a nuisance in any way, my default reaction would be to feel ashamed of my lack of control over my dog, to want to improve this, and to apologise to anyone who had been inconvenienced. Honestly, I have never met anyone in real life who is as hostile to dogs as so many MNers are.

So, as a rather drunk person, at this point in the evening, who (as my mum frequently points out) gets a bit foul mouthed when lubricated.... I have the following question....

What the fuck else do you want me to do??

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hanaka88 · 04/06/2011 07:56

Yesterday I took my DS, who is terrified of dogs after bring growled at once, to the park. I parked my shiney new car and opened the boot to take out his SN buggy and a dog lept up scratching his little paws all around my boot and causing DS to scream.

Not in any way the dogs fault, it was young and wanted to say hello but I was shocked the the owner slowly strolled over to the dog and then said 'cone on cheeky' and walked off! Surely a firm 'down' instantly would have been good?

I have no problem with dogs and there has been some lovely people in parks who introduce their dogs to DS calmly and sometimes he will even put his hand out before running away, but surely letting your dog scratch someones car is not ok!

hanaka88 · 04/06/2011 07:57

Wow loads of typos there! The result of no sleep :(

aStarInStrangeways · 04/06/2011 08:06

The bloke downstairs from us is an irresponsible dog owner IMO. He has two massive dogs (bulldog and some kind of bulldog cross) living in a fairly small flat. Not a problem in itself as the flat has a garden, but he never ever picks up their shit from his own garden. His mum comes over twice a week and picks it up for him Shock This bloke is at least in his forties, btw. Their garden would be quite nice if it wasn't plastered in dogshit five days a week. What's the betting he doesn't pick up after them when he takes them for walks?

Avantia · 04/06/2011 08:17

Good post OP - Yanbu

You can't win being a dog owner and am also gobsmacked at how hostile people are towards dogs because of 'one' incident .

I dont agree with people not picking up their dog poo - but I also dont agree with people living litter about that dogs get their noses in .

I am attempting to train my dog - why can't people train their children to not tease dogs or ask owners if thet can approach dog - never see a bashing thats children should be banned from dog walking areas !

SunshineisSorry · 04/06/2011 08:17

My friend has made her daughter scared of dogs, it has to be seen to be believed. "Oh come here quickly DD theres a dog" loud voice "it wont hurt you" when she ignoring dog in first place. The classic was when the girls were messing around after school and in an attempt to get her DD to walk closer to us "now look, dont mess about there are two dogs over there look" err, yeah, on the other side of a busy road with cars zooming past. Incredulous is not the word. Now, we live by the sea so there are always plenty of dogs etc, why would you make your child scared of dogs? My friend isn't particularly scared herself, so why instil a fear of dogs in your child, especially when you live in an area with loads of dogs.

hanaka88 · 04/06/2011 08:26

Sunshine no I wouldn't make my Child scared of dogs it's horrible. DS throws his scooter at them and runs of screaming 'it won't growl it's nice' as that's what I say but he doesn't really understand language.

So now I've started saying 'shhhh go past they are nice' before he sees them to prevent a dog being squashed by a scooter.

coffeeinbed · 04/06/2011 08:40

I bloody hate irresponsible dog owners. Pick it up, you cow, how hard is it!
I usualy do the "Do you need a spare baggie for that? I have extra". I always have extra.
I have met people whose children are scared and who encourage them to come say hello to my dog - he really is the gentlest dog ever. But I have seen so much hostility - one child once stopped , looked my dog in the eyes, and screamed at him, fully intending to scare him.. The mother was happily observing. Any other dog would have jumped , out of fright if anything, and who would get blamed? Why, the dog..
I wish I'd said something.

SunshineisSorry · 04/06/2011 08:42

but that is in response to his fears hanaka, you didnt instill the fear in the first place. I hd some staffie knock DD over once, she loves dogs i was Angry and told the woman in no uncertain terms that the bastard animal was out of control.

ILoveYouToo · 04/06/2011 08:55

hanaka88 said "DS throws his scooter at them and runs of screaming 'it won't growl it's nice' as that's what I say but he doesn't really understand language."
Sad I hope you can find a way to help him react differently, as that's a dangerous situation for him and for the dogs you meet. Must be a horrible situation for you. Sad If my dog had jumped up at your car I would have been very apologetic. She should have called the dog back to her before it reached your car.

Sunshine your friend sounds like a loon! Hmm

coffee "But I have seen so much hostility - one child once stopped , looked my dog in the eyes, and screamed at him, fully intending to scare him.. The mother was happily observing." I think I would probably have looked her in the eyes and screamed right back. Grin

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earlyriser · 04/06/2011 09:10

Don't want to get into a fight but i have lost count of the times my ds has been jumped up on or ran at by dogs off the lead. It IS very frightening to be approached by an animal who is the same size as you (i don't know any adult who would not be terrified if approached by a bear for example). No matter how many times i tell my son that it is ok, that the dog just wants to sniff or say hello, he simply doesn't know (and neither do i , for sure) that this animal isn't going to eat him!

PacificDogwood · 04/06/2011 09:27

Well, as the OP was directed against irresponsible dogowners, we are all agreed then Grin - whether that's is not picking up dog poo or out of control pooches.
As a dog friend and frequent walker of 4 boys, I do understand that animals and children are at times difficult to control. Not that many children crap in the street though Wink. And yes, we all appreciate an apology or at least some sort of sense that the owner/parent takes action/makes their displeasure at their charges' behaviour plain.

I was in our drive this morning with DS4 (14 months) when an elderly man picked up after his little dog and we exchanged a few words about the whether - as you do Smile. He then offered one of his spare baggies to a young woman who had been doing her best to ignore her squatting Weimaraner (gorgeous dog, but his poo was enormous and not any less disgusting than a mixbreed's Wink).
To be fair, she was mortified, took bag, tidied up and left blushing furiously.

Man and I shared a great big grin. Made my day. So far.

We live in a cul-de-sac, so no through traffic but loads of pedestrians as there is a footpath to the river where everybody walks their dogs. So we don't just get the resident dog poo (which usually gets picked up), but the whole village's. Or so it seems anywah, grrrr!

Avantia · 04/06/2011 09:30

I realy dont know where people walk their dogs or children but I have rarely seen a dog jump up at a child, or growl at unknown child . Perhaps I avoid these areas ,I'm sure it happens ,but if an alien came to earth and read MN posts about dogs I think they would wonder what 'beast' the dog is . !'

There are obviuosly areas where dogs seem to run wild Hmm

My dog isn't perfect but then neither are my children but have tried training all of them ! Grin

hanaka88 · 04/06/2011 09:33

He was growled at by my friends dog at a BBQ he loved dogs before this but the growl really scare him (the dog has fear agression or somethingand DS walked past, I didn't know he had fear agression then)

he does the scooter thing out of a kind of fear reflex when dogs run up to him. Not the dogs fault so I really worry about them getting hurt (I love dogs) but not really DS's fault either. The same way I wouldn't let DS go running up to a strangers dog, people shouldn't let their dogs run up to strangers children.

All I can do is keep introducing him to nice calm dogs and hope he just grows out of his fear. Thing is though he ends up getting comfortable with that dog but ONLY that dog. It doesn't improe his fear of other dogs

PacificDogwood · 04/06/2011 09:48

My DS1 was absolutely paralytic with fear of dogs - he would scream his head off if a dog on a lead walked past our fence minding his own business (he is now 8, ok with dogs, but still a drama queen Wink).

DS2 OTOH loved dogs from before he was mobile and as a toddler would walk up to any dog and snog them. Yes, with tongues!

Neither of them had had any good or bad experiences with dogs at those young ages.

DS3 likes the dogs with know ie friends' dogs, but is otherwise not bothered.

DS4 was howling in fear at the sight of a small Shitzu a friend brought to the house the other day and would not go off my arm...

My point is that I do think there is some intrinsic thing that some kids are more scared than others.
I used to try and get DS1 to just not panic when there were dogs around and at the same time teach DS2 to ask owner's permission before approaching dogs. And NO kissing!!

OryxCrake · 04/06/2011 09:51

I'm not a dog hater - at all. But I am frightened of them (have managed to bring up DC who are not scared at all, so that's something).

I was thinking about this the other day as a woman walked past me with a large-ish dog and I didn't feel frightened. I realise that for me it's all about the owners. If I sense that somebody's in control of the dog - whether the dog's on a lead or not - I'm learning to relax. That's partly because I read dog-owners' posts on here in an effort to reassure myself!

My fear kicks in when the owner doesn't seem to be in control, which includes people who do the 'oh, he's just being friendly' thing. But to be honest, I've encountered fewer of these recently, and more of the responsible kind.

When my children were little and I carried such things, I did hand the occasional nappy sack to people who walked off when their dog had done a poo...

BeerTricksPotter · 04/06/2011 12:57

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PigletJohn · 04/06/2011 13:05

"dog haters"

A wonderful name for people who prefer not to have shit lying around.

SunshineisSorry · 04/06/2011 13:07

errr, piglet - i dont like having shit lying around, i own a dog and guess what, i dont have shit lying around either - i pick it up!!!

Avantia · 04/06/2011 13:12

ditto here - I am a dog owner but dont like shit lying around .

If you read some threads either in AIBU or the doghouse - you will see a number of 'dog haters' for a variety of reasons . Some because ONCE a dog might have run past them whillst chasing a squirrel Grin

fluffybutt · 04/06/2011 13:29

On my dog walk this morning I picked up 4 poos, one of which was my dogs. Mostly people do pick up, but it seems that some arseholes feel its ok to plop and run if its dark. I would probably leave all the other poos if it wasn't for the fact my DS is a poo magnet. One habitual and well known plop and run offender got a nasty delivery from the village poo police (me and my friends). We returned all her lost property, with a note saying, 'You left this behind, thought you might be missing it'. It worked. ( unless she is now the night time offender.)

SloganLogan · 04/06/2011 13:34

Thank you OP for being a good dog owner! Sadly I have met so many that are not. I am a dog-lover myself, and am shocked by the number of people who think it's fine to let their dogs run across and put their face next to toddlers or jump on them, without any apology.

LadyThumb · 04/06/2011 13:40

We had a plop and runner in the village, who my son used to see most nights when he walked our dog. He waited until the man had gone, picked up the poo in a bag and tipped out the bagful of poo onto the owners bonnet, and squashed it all over. The bloke didn't do it again!

ILoveYouToo · 04/06/2011 13:59

I love all the guerrilla revenge on the 'plop and run' people. Grin Fantastic!

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emptyshell · 04/06/2011 14:03

We get more problems in the local park from the kids, both in terms of litter and vandalism from the older ones, and the parents than the dog owners combined (I've seen one abandoned turd in the last fortnight I think). I did however offer the woman dragging her kid to shit in the bushes a poo bag to clean it up. The state our park's left in after a sunny weekend is disgusting - much much much worse than after a spring day when just the dog walkers and "proper" (ie not for 2 weeks when the weather's nice and the London Marathon's on the telly) joggers.

However - I'm getting fucking sick of moving my dog off the path for cyclists, buggies, kids walking along and the like and just getting glared at - so nowadays - I'm not fucking bothering anymore and he can just plod on past ignoring completely like he does (I recall him for other people's happiness - he's more focused on getting to the next tree to sniff). I'm sick to death of getting the attitude and crap just because I own a dog - so these days - I'm giving it back in abundance. If my dog's off the lead in an off-lead allowed area, and if he's doing naff all to you (which he will be because, hate to break it to you, you're not that interesting unless you get a strap on bushy tail and start climbing trees) - you can effing well deal with it these days because I pay my taxes for the upkeep of the park as well and I'm bloody well going to use them.

Oh and by the way - my dog's collie-sized. He is not in any way shape or form responsible for the St Bernard sized ossified dog turd from 9 months ago that's 15 miles away... I'll gladly go back to the poo bin I dumped in and retrive the most recent sample for your comparison - until you want to take me up on that offer - piss off (had an idiot try this one on me).

archieleach · 04/06/2011 14:20

God who cares about dogs. If you don't like their shit don't go to where it is.
It is cats that should be shot. When you can't enjoy the privacy of your own property without having your own food/vegetables poisoned by these vermin. Not their fault I know just the irresponsible owners.
ps if you are a single woman who loves cats because you can't form human relationships, you will, definitely, end up with a mouth like a cats arse.

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