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to fuming that there has been no staff at the local secondary school since 3.30pm to take a serious complaint about bullying and harrasment

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tomhardyismydh · 27/05/2011 17:09

I walked past the house of a family who I do know but not terribly well and I am aware there middle daughter is being bullied.

outside was a group of girls looking in through their window shouting and jeering and swearing. I know the mum works some afternoons so I did intervien and tell the group of girls to leave them alone and move away from the house...in hindsight a bit silly of me as I did have my 5 yr old dd with me, but I wasn't in any way afraid forour safety or anything. Turns out the mum was home and she also then came out. They took the message and went away, but then followed me up the street shouting and swearing and berating me. It was laughable really but attempted to call non emergency police no just to show the little shits they can get away with behaving like this, but my bloody mobile died on me.

Anyway I have been trying to call the school since 3.30 and no one has been available to take my call, and have just now been told all senior management staff left at 4.15 and receptionist cant locate any other teaching staff. no one will be in over half term. now I m shocked that the head did not pick up his answer messages before leaving the school for a whole week, I had left one message at 3.30 and one at 4pm. I find it hard to even believe the head of a secondary school would even finish at 4.15.

Im tempted to call the non emergancy no again to give the message to the school this not acceptable, but Im sure this is very little the police would even be able to do.

also I want to say bunch of little bitches how horrible for a group of girls to behave like this!!!!!

OP posts:
beesimo · 27/05/2011 19:42

OP

I am going out for a drink now so night night and all the best to you.

I would go off the thread now if I were you all the dipsomanic teachers have started hitting the wine now and you'll get no sense out of them. It will be like a chorus of caterwauling cats

Onion I can hear you hiccuping from clanny.

Original poster
tomhardyismydh · 27/05/2011 19:44

night Bessimo, have a good one Wink

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PrincessScrumpy · 27/05/2011 19:44

Oh we regularly get parents coming in demanding to speak to specific teachers immediately and get really cross if you tell them that the teacher is currently teaching and unable to leave 30 kids.

OP has the same expectations. When would you turn up at an office, after their working hours and be able to speak to a senior member of staff?!

GypsyMoth · 27/05/2011 19:45

its not just end of term....its END OF SCHOOL YEAR for many!

my dd's included

how come all teen disputes now come under the heading of 'BULLY'???Hmm

the poor kids canrt have fallouts with out being labelled these days. they are learning still how to manage emotions,but being labelled bully isnt helpful in a lot of cases (no,no,not talking about this case tomhardy!!)

londonone · 27/05/2011 19:46

tomhardy - so you want someone to improve the ETHOS of a school after closing on a friday! Okay!

TheFlyingOnion · 27/05/2011 19:47

OP no-one on this thread has disagreed with you wrt the "bullying". Yes, it is unacceptable. Yes, bullies who act unacceptably outside school hours whilst wearing school uniform should be dealt with by the school, to a certain degree.

However, you do not seem to have read any of the posts asking why you think it is reasonable that school office staff should wait around until 6pm on a Friday afternoon just in case a member of the public calls in to report bad behaviour by school pupils.

Can you please respond to this point?

GypsyMoth · 27/05/2011 19:47

i think its the opposite tom,i think its easier to exclude these days

activate · 27/05/2011 19:48

but Tilly the point is you might be

because things are not ever what they seem - well not normally - it would be so much easier if there was a bad one and a good one like in the westerns - we could all know for certain then

berylmuspratt · 27/05/2011 19:48

As this didn't happen in the school grounds they probably won't get involved.

londonone · 27/05/2011 19:49

I would have to disagree tilly!

TheFlyingOnion · 27/05/2011 19:49

beesimo do you have surveillance equipment installed in my house?

Just nipped out for fags in advance of the third glass of red....

hic! Wine

have a good one xx

londonone · 27/05/2011 19:49

about exclusions that is

GypsyMoth · 27/05/2011 19:55

why?

i think more notice is taken of bullying these days...we never had policies that i remember back in the 80's

TheFlyingOnion · 27/05/2011 19:57

FWIW I would have a serious word with any kid who I thought was letting our school down by making an exhibition of themselves in public whilst in school uniform. Particularly if a member of the public had complained. Its a matter of standards.

Would I be around to deal with it at 4.30pm on a Friday? I would not, yourhonour.....

GypsyMoth · 27/05/2011 20:04

our upper school finishes at 3 pm anyway. every day,not just end of term

TigerseyeMum · 27/05/2011 20:05

Olivetti you are missing the point - the implication was outrage that there was no one at school at 4.15pm and why could they not be there to take the call?

Suggesting that teachers slope off after the school bell. Don't do a working day 'like the rest of us'.

Sorry but they may have started at 7am (well, my HoD used to start marking at 5am before going in to school), or not had any breaks (I used to go all day without a wee) then worked in the evenings. Therefore, the suggestion of how dare teachers not be there when I call is unjustified.

And I refute your assertion that most people work similar hours to teachers. They don't. They think they do, but they don't. And they usually get paid more. And if they do work similar hours they are not necessarily sitting by a phone waiting to take a call.

londonone · 27/05/2011 20:06

There are lots of hoops that need to be jumped through before a head can do a permanent exclusion and even then it is more often than not challenged by the parents and sometimes overturned.

OnlyWantsOne · 27/05/2011 20:06

How is it a school matter?

neverforgethowmuchiloveyou · 27/05/2011 20:07

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GypsyMoth · 27/05/2011 20:09

what time does the school actually finish op??

AbigailS · 27/05/2011 20:11

Oh! Please don't turn this into a "who works hardest" thread. They never go well!
But I agree there are some posters who are eager to claim that teachers have a cushy life and should have been at school waiting for any telephone calls. The OP can't tell if the teachers had all left or that no one was answering the phone. So I repeat, even if they were in school it is not the teachers that answer the school phone, it's office staff. By that time of the evening many school offices are locked and teachers couldn't get into the office if they tried.

Original poster
tomhardyismydh · 27/05/2011 20:11

neverforget how awfull but that is reassuring to know.

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shortarsefuck · 27/05/2011 20:11

Outside school, in uniform or not you're lucky they're doing anything.

When it was my son getting hit around the face with a metal ruler and the shit kicked out of him on a daily basis, the school's attitude was "outside of school not our problem"

And you never went on holiday and couldn't wait to get out the door of work OP?? I know I have, and I am not a teacher.

OnlyWantsOne · 27/05/2011 20:12

They probably were hyped up on fruitshoots