to think people who buy huuuuuuuuuge buggies shouldnt get on the bus with them

[mummypud]

ok i am sure this has been done before but after anouther experience of ittoday am wondering if i am missing something...
Why buy a huge buggy if you know you will be getting the bus...and i accept sometimes there may be a reason where getting the bus is needed butevery blooming day?
where i live isnt far to town.. its walkable.. although i should add they are the same mumswho insist on taking buggies into school despite it saying no buggies... grrrrrr

stretch, I'm confused why does the wheelchair user have to get off the bus?

Quite right, mummypud - you do have that right. Just like the buggy-pusher does.

is this the definition of a buggy? here
or is this a buggy? here
We had a M&P travel system with DD which we never had an issue with on the bus. It wasn't often we were on the bus anyway.
We also (when she was older) got a similar one to the second link and it was a nightmare - terrible to put up / down, far too lightweight, DD hated it, and it was far, far too short for me/DH to push comfortably!

What buggy is too big?I have a britax b duo ready for when bump arrives in July, my dd is only 16 months and this pram can go from single to double and back again...will I be harassed on buses if I only have one child with me? I don't drive. Am now worried that my pram is too big! (haven't yet got the bus where we have moved to as am far too large and have spd)

As an aside, I was shocked to read on my bus that wheelchair users DON'T have priority over buggies AND if the bus is full and people are standing, the wheelchair user has to get off! shock Surely that's not right??!

In Nottingham, on their city transport, wheelchair users get first priority, though in the space they can only fit one. If somebody was on the bus already with a wheelchair, and somebody tried to get on with a pushchair, they would be asked to fold the pushchair down, or not get on. Bus routes generally are every 10 minutes so nobody minds that much.

If no wheelchair users, you can usually get three prams on in the space, but generally most bus drivers will refuse a third getting on if not folded up as it can be a bit of a squeeze.

That all makes sense, Elf.

at Panda....non reverser and sling user extraordinare

I don't need a pushchair but if I did I would use the bus but I'd also need one for taking the dog for a walk. Where I take the dog, most of it is paved but there are some paths that are dirt with stones and tree roots/wood so what would you suggest. A pushchair that would be suitable for a bus may not be suitable for these paths.

I know, I was surprised too. I did read it twice.. Will take a picture next time I am on it.

The notice said standing passengers take priority over wheelchair/buggy spaces. I am really hoping I just read it wrong.

It was First Buses.

Elf sounds like the buses where I live, although many bus drivers won't allow a third pushchair for insurance reasons.

Btw we have a bus service every 10 mins, sometimes you can wait 20 mins, even half an hour, for a bus

Chaotic - your dog is very lazy to need a pushchair. Make the bugger walk!

Is there really a sign saying "no buggies"?

That's disgraceful.

YANBU totally agree OP

i think there are plenty of buggys thatare suibtable for walking and still small enough to go on the bus or fit in the boot etc...
i just think its common sense not to buy a pushchair that is going to stick out to far on the bus if you will be using the bus a lot..
Different of course is bus travel is occasional .
Twin buggys are of course essential and there is no easy answer but im sure nobody would harrass anybody for having one.

admittedly, the bus service near me is excellent. I am lucky enough to live on a road that has two bus routes joined onto it, both on a 10 minute service, so during the day, the busses generally are every five minutes. All the buses those that can lower the floor to make it easier to get on/off, and most drivers are considerate enough to let you sit down before they hurtle off (something I'm grateful of being 9months pregnant and travelling with DD!).
The only thing I fault my bus company for is for not doing half fares for children, their fare is £1 no matter how many stops they are going; which is frustrating when you're dragging a poorly child to the doctors (two stops down the road) and its expensive.

kungfu

My DS has an invisible disability and I often have to wheel him onto the bus in his 3-wheeler which is quite large. Well it has to be quite large because he is four.

But it does piss me off when all the stroller AND the wheelchair spaces are taken up with one huge behemoth of a pram encrusted with lace and regurgitating a six-pound (unsecured) newborn rising like Aphrodite from the foam. WTF?

I did know someone who insisted on buying a massive old-fashioned Silver Cross pram because she thought it looked "cute". She was about 5 foot tall and could barely see over the top of it, let alone get it on the bus.

She lived in London and didn't drive and it was the bane of her life. She finished up getting a bugaboo and using the Silver Cross "for best".

Quite bonkers.

I bet they are usually first time Mothers who had absolutely no idea how important getting a buggy through doors, onto busses, into car boots would be. They probably chose it for appearances! Just sit there (or stand) and feel smug that you didn't fall for the big is beautiful thing...

pannda

I've just realised that I spelt your name wrong the first time

I spelt it the same way as I spell my dog's name, yes, she's named Panda

My buggy doesn't fit in my car boot . I blame pregnancy hormones and clever marketing... Haven't been on a bus as I am too scared others will hate me!

I think YABU, with ds2 I have been through 3 bloody buggies already, all smallish stroller type ones, all 3 have broken within 6 months. I can't afford to buy Maclarens every time, and cheaper ones are flimsy.

I got fed up and bought an urban detour for £15 on ebay, really sturdy and will hopefully last. I use it on the bus, fits on fine. The drivers will usually only let 2 buggies on the bus at a time anyway so can't see what difference it makes. Buses here are every half an hour though and not generally that popular with pram users, never seen a person in a wheelchair use one either. It's rare that the wheelchair spaces are full (well apart from gormless people who just sit and stare at you when trying to get on).

Not just on the bus, but in shops too!

A grandma had one of these in the Co-op recently and nobody could get past it to use the shop at all!

YANBU if the people who buy these buggies use them on the bus more often than anything else. I once saw a girl have a blazing row with a bus driver because her buggy, which was MASSIVE and covered in bags etc wouldnt fit on the bus so she was blocking the aisle. He explained, politely, that it wasnt safe and she either needed to fold it down or get off and wait for the next bus whichwould hopefully be less full.

She was fuming and shouting all sorts of abuse and said that she used the buggy on the bus every day and why the eff should she fold her effing pushchair etc. She got off eventually but not before having a go at the other people on the bus for actually wanting to get on and off safely!

DS's nursery has something they call "the bus". It is a 6 seater, about the same width as a double buggy but with 3 banks of seats and room for a couple more to squeeze in between.

They only use it on a quiet road to the park though. The kids love it.

As far as I know no-one has ever tried to get it on a bus!

YABU for a number of reasons: some people inherit or are handed down buggies so have no choice, some didn't realise they may have to use the bus more regularly than they do now, some have two DC so need a twin...

Having said all that, I live in a city with excellent public transport (London) and I knew before DD was born that I'd be using the Tube and buses and Overground alot. I definitely factored that in when choosing my buggy and in the end went for a Bug Bee (nice and narrow). A Maclaren Techno was also on my shortlist. Two of my friends bought Chameleons traded "down" to a Bee or Maclaren a year later because they were smaller.