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to think people shouldn't give out legal advice on here when they don't know what they're talking about

169 replies

BooBearBoo · 22/05/2011 16:24

I have read SO MANY threads on here with posted giving out advice as if it is gospel and it is totally wrong.

I've had to clear up nonsense on two threads in as many days.

Why do people think this is ok to do????!!!!!! It's dangerous!

OP posts:
nijinsky · 23/05/2011 13:15

*kewcumber " Its rare in the long run, that you are better off making a loss than a profit because you only pay tax on a proportion of your profit still leaving you with... money. "

Yes, exactly. There comes a point where you have to make a profit, ie where the level of income becomes enough for it worthwhile to start paying tax on a profit. With rented property, you can either elect to deduct a certain % every year for wear and tear or deduct actual items of loss. You can also deduct your mortgage payments from any profit. So unless you put down a huge deposit, you generally run at a loss in the first years anyway. Then of course you can re-mortgage, so as to free up capital for new projects, although this might mean on an existing rental that your mortgage payments again exceed your profits.

Obviously it depends on how you structure your business. There comes a point when running it as a company becomes more tax efficient. Not least because you might want a company vehicle and other company owned asseets.

In the long term it goes without saying that the aim is profit, but the aim is also wealth creation and to create wealth you have to invest and take risk.

Am I not right in saying that very few businesses, away from the property sector, make much profit, if any, in the early years, and in fact a lot of people make a lot of money from setting up businesses which have never made a profit but which are sold for a lot of money? ie the profit is in the intellectual property the business owns, or the other assets, or even in the competition it provides to other businesses in that sector?

Lawyers also study tax and accountancy. Not saying I'm that good at it!

tbh though I would have thought the average person would know this (about not making a profit for tax purposes in the early years sometimes) and that its a bit naive to make an issue out of it to beat someone with?

SockShitter · 23/05/2011 13:54

YANBU, all I can see is that the OP Is saying you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet... and everyone is saying they don't believe her.. but in a really argumentative way. Which doesn't make sense because that is kinda what she was saying anyway Confused

anewyear · 23/05/2011 14:13

I dont understand, what is wrong with putting cling film on a burn? scauld etc

anewyear · 23/05/2011 14:20

scalds even

thebestisyettocome · 23/05/2011 14:49

I've just had a quick read through the 'glass smash' thread. I can't believe the crap spouted on there. No wonder you started this thread OP Smile

nijinsky · 23/05/2011 15:00

"I've just had a quick read through the 'glass smash' thread. I can't believe the crap spouted on there. No wonder you started this thread OP"

Yes, the Health and Safety At Work Act 1974 applying to residential homes was my favourite! Closely followed by further confusion of criminal and civil case law.

LRDTheFeministDragon · 23/05/2011 15:20

sock, I think the problem is the OP comes across as if what she's saying is 'don't believe anyone on the internet except me'.

I agree some of the comments are just snarky, but that is an argument that's liable to put people's backs up.

MrSpoc · 23/05/2011 16:50

Guess what I am not a lawyer. But at the same time I would never belive anyone who said i am a barrister / lawyer so I am right.

I do understand that the law is very complex so people have to speclialise in a certain topic.

Also a lot of law and legislation is open to interpretation hence why you get two sides battling it out over one word.

I have had one poster on here when discussing consumer law tell me I am wrong because they are a lawyer. I did ask what they precticed and they said it was something different but they are still right.

Also what is wrong with cling film on a burn? infact I was trained to put cling film on burns as it keeps in moisture.

SockShitter · 23/05/2011 17:58

Maybe LDN, but I took it differently. LIke she was saying she (as a lawyer? can see some of the rubbish for how rubbish it is.. where some people accept it as fact.

she could be a bloody sheep farmer for all we know but its valuable advice when you consider some of the stuff people come out with!

SockShitter · 23/05/2011 17:58

(as a lawyer)

beesimo · 23/05/2011 18:01

nijinsky

One thing I will give you credit for your very good a cutting and pasting!

lisianthus · 23/05/2011 18:20

"a little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pieran spring; Where shallow draughts intoxicated the brain; and drinking deeply sobers us again."

Never thought learning that would come in handy Grin

lisianthus · 23/05/2011 18:21

Bother autocorrect. Just ignore the mistakes!

anewyear · 23/05/2011 21:15

Me too, MrSpoc

MollieO · 23/05/2011 21:26

I used to be a lawyer (solicitor) until nijinsky told me I wasn't. I'm just hoping that my employer and the Law Society don't find out. Having said that I've always got my first aid certificate to fall back on Grin.

I've had some very good (and correct) advice on here.

MollieO · 23/05/2011 21:29

Meant to add that I'd love to know what area of law the OP specialises in that means she/he can be so definitive and right. In my speciality that practically never happens (or maybe I'm just thick).

Georgimama · 23/05/2011 21:30

I found the sight of my practising certificate on the wall in the office very reassuring this morning. I was a bit worried last night that I had imagined being a solicitor.

As an aside I am appalled that the spellchecker on this thing wants me to change practising to practicing.

flowery · 23/05/2011 21:41

YANBU. Very frustrating. It does happen on employment questions a lot but not nearly as much if people post in the Employment Issues topic. When people post for redundancy/maternity/whatever advice in AIBU or something quite often you get all sort of scary crap being spouted by people who haven't got a clue but think they do who wouldn't have seen the thread in Employment. If people post in the right topic there is more likely to be someone who actually knows what they are talking about looking so less crap will appear and more actual proper advice.

So don't ask for legal advice in AIBU or chat people!

Most of the time and certainly always when I started posting, I link to an official government website so people have an official link saying what I was saying. I don't do it to 'prove' I know what I'm talking about, more because it's useful for people especially if they need to quote it to their employer (rather than 'Flowery on MN says...' Grin) but if someone posts without giving a link please check before taking it as gospel.

flowery · 23/05/2011 21:45

On the subject of lawyers advising in an area which is not their specialism, my DH is a lawyer, a very good one, but he's not an employment lawyer. If anyone asks him a question on employment law he wouldn't dream of attempting to answer and would refer the person to me, someone who is not a lawyer but is an employment law specialist. Law is a huge huge subject obviously so don't take the 'I'm a lawyer so must be right even though it's not my subject' nonsense from anyone.

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