to wonder if Jamie oliver has lost touch with reality

[ThatVikRinA22]

dont get me wrong, i am a massive fan of his 30 minute meals,

but last week i went to do the cod dish - £10.20 on the fish alone

just been to get meat to do the Sunday roast one - fillet of beef for 4 people would have been £20 for 4 people - for the meat alone

the woman in Tesco behind the fish counter said "he is a pain in the arse and thinks everyone is a millionaire".

a few weeks ago i would have said not, but looking at the prices for some of the meals....he argues that convenience food is just as expensive. it bleeding well is not! its not half as nice i admit but aibu in thinking that he has lost touch with what normal everyday people can afford?

I live in the south of Italy and can't get hold of half the stuff Jamie bleats about in his Italian cookbook.

Go figure.

Nigel Slater's grub looks lovely, but I can't can't watch him. He makes me dry heave with all that dramatic..............................pausing................in the wrong place in sentences. (you just watch him now and see what I mean) And there's something so wrong about a man who holds a jar of chickpeas in such an erotic way. Urgh urgh urgh.

This was the elephant in the room during his Ministry of Food series set in Rotherham.

IIRC, there was no effort made to discuss this key issue when trying to change people's eating habits and get them cooking. Cost. Rotherham may have some of the fattest people in the country, bu also has some of the poorest. He needed to make the point that healthy eating doesn't have to be expensive. And that would mean abandoning most of his yummy meat and fish-based recipes for a start. You can eat very well on very little, but only if you follow a mostly vegetarian diet and/or forget about ethical / organic produce.

Whu oh why didn't he focus on how to cook great meals on a very tight budget? And poor people are not going to run the risk of wasting food, either through messing up a new recipe, or having it rejected by family members because it's unfamliar.

Pa Larkin

I've got no chance of cooking anything of Jamie's or anyone else's for that matter, as here in Germany if its not pork, cheese or sausage you've got no chance

I couldn't even get tonic water for the lovely bottle of gin a friend bought me yesterday

Lorraine Pasquale is lovely. I want to be her friend; she looks good fun.

I've been watching the baking thing, yes. It's nice. I'm not a baker myself,prefer things with huge lumps of cheese in, but she's refreshingly normal.She doesn't run round killing things before slicing them up and frying them, she doesn't pause in the wrong places or spit, and I bet she doesn't make the camera crew piddle in portaloos like Saint Delia does.

No tonic for your gin?? My goodness I'd have to move.

I do, too, Netto :o.

Something about Nigel Slater makes me think he's about to start doing Riverdance

The up side is you can get a really nice bottle of wine for 3 euros.... one of the reasons I've been collapsed on the sofa with a hangover all afternoon

If only he'd wash his hair I might feel better about him cooking my dinner. He makes the Hairy Bikers look like an advert for cleanliness and hygiene.

To be honest you could level the COST arguement againts H-F-W too. I thought his campaign againt cheap supermarket chicken was very good but in the end I really think that organic food is not a sensible or viable solution at any level of the food chain either.

He has been a very rich person pretty much his entire adult hood. Of course he has lost touch with reality.

I was in Debenhams today looking at his cook ware stuff and I did wonder when he would finally feel he has enough money in the bank.

Shite Expat, or just small?

Both, Netto.

And yes, Nigel, HFW, Jamie, 'Oh, just grow your own, it's so much better.'

Um, newsflash: we don't all live in nice houses with gardens.

It does make me cross when HFW and the rest of them lecture us on buying organic chicken, line caught fish yadda yadda yadda. I don't want millionaires telling me how to spend my (very small amount of) money, thankyou.

That's the thing Bucharest. How can you watch someone make a spag bol or whatever when you're sure they'll burst into an Irish jig at any second.
Indeed it is scary.

Perhaps that's what the weirdy pausing is all about....bet he's thinking "shall I do it now or shall I wait till I've ground my hand picked organic very rare black peppercorns over the top and then do it?"

I did used to grow my own and by the time you've bought all the equipment you need its not really that cheap. I also used to find that we have professional famers growing veg for a reason; theirs is nicer!

I just couldn't feel enthused about my wilty, snail covered lettuces so used to buy the lovely fresh clean looking stuff washed and in a bag in Tesco

Nigel's hands bug me. They look like Lord Voldemort's.

That's just it, TheFlyingOnion, Brian and company grow it all for Jamie.

To be fair all cookware in shops is overpriced.

I recently discovered Nisbets which sells catering equipment online at wholesale prices. Everything from an apron to an entire commercial kitchen.

Take any well known set of chef knives from there and compare to the shops. You will save at least 50%. I bought a commercial toaster oniine there and it arrived next day by courier. Fantastic.

I bought Jamie Oliver top soil yesterday.

Just thought I'd add that.

well, its easy to look smuggy mcsmug about your wonderful lifestyle, home grown veg, organic free range truffle fed chickens and whatever else when you've got unlimited funds to pay a bunch of professionals to do it for you.

Oooh I'm getting myself in a right lather now. Jeffin' Jamie jeffin' Oliver.....