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Some people think Bin Laden being dead is a lie.

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WannabeNigella · 03/05/2011 19:44

So I'm curious as to what your favourite conspiracy theory is?

Personally regarding Bin Laden, I think if he was still alive AQ would have wasted no time parading him on tv with a copy of today's paper!

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LaurieFairyCake · 03/05/2011 19:47

Yes, he's dead but there will be all sorts of nutters saying he went the way of Elvis/or they're torturing him/or they haven't found him at all.

My fave theory is the lizard aristocracy/movers and shakers one purported by David Ike - hilarious! Grin

girliefriend · 03/05/2011 19:50

I think its a bit sus that they 'buried him at sea later the same day' Hmm

littleducks · 03/05/2011 19:50

That he was a CIA agent called Tim Osman

littleducks · 03/05/2011 19:54

And Benazir Bhutto knew about him being murdered back in 2007.....she said so in an interview on TV.....as if it was common knowledge......then she was killed

fluffygal · 03/05/2011 19:56

But it was filmed so there is some evidence. Was probably best to bury him straight away really.

Punkatheart · 03/05/2011 19:59

The reason he was buried is that according to Muslim law, the body should be disposed of within 24 hours. So nothing suspicious there. Although the sea was not the wisest choice - but they did not want to create a grave to visit and eulogise.

TheSilentBilingual · 03/05/2011 20:05

I am sorry. But, after the past decade of lies, distortions, obfuscations, and out and out deception surrounding 9/11 and every other damn issue under the sun, I don?t believe anything the US governement say about anything anymore. (And, I know this shite ain?t new, but as the brazeness elevates due to our unquestioning acceptance of information that is tenuous at best, and out and out provable lies at worst, it gets more surreal by the day).

Not my own words, but my sentiments.

thisisyesterday · 03/05/2011 20:08

agree with TSB

my initial reaction was one of suspicion! oh yes, we caught him and killed him. the body? evidence? well um, yeh we buried him at sea!

how convenient Hmm

my conspiracy theory? i don't have one. it's more likely that they have NO idea where he is. he's hardly going to jump up and say "dudes, you so didn't kill me, i'm right here" is he?

MsScarlett · 03/05/2011 20:30

I'm not normally into the whole conspiracy theory thing, but the whole thing is just soo dodgy. I'm not denying he was a sick guy who deserved justice, but I don't see why they didn't capture him and try him under international law, involving the UN perhaps and punish accordingly. It's all just a bit nasty, and reeks of sinking to the same level, blasting in and killing him with no trial etc. He was unarmed when they shot him down. Surely that's unlawful? I'm not saying he didn't deserve it, but I just down see why the US thinks they are above any kind of law. And getting rid of the body like that was just plain weird. The whole thing just makes me feel uneasy and I'm not quite sure why.

DontGoCurly · 03/05/2011 20:38

They buried him at sea to stop his grave becoming a shrine or so they say. They supposedly have footage of the killing which if they come under enough pressure they might show.

Apparently they also have his dna as proof. Hmmm Hmm

I think if the USA were going to spoof they'd have done it before now. Also as someone else said Al-Qaeda would have published a picture of him with todays paper if he were still alive.

MsScarlett · 03/05/2011 20:41

The DNA thing made me laugh, how did they have a sample taken previously that was definitely his to compare it to FFS?!

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manticlimactic · 03/05/2011 20:46

I reckon he died of natural causes (or whatever illness he had) and Obama just wanted to take all the glory! Grin

thisisyesterday · 03/05/2011 20:46

but that's what they want you to think dontgocurly

likewise, everyone in the surrounding area being told to turn off all their lights and close their curtains, would hate to have any witnesses to it actuall yhappening huh?

and some "local" conveniently tweeting about it and then saying "oh, fancy that i just accidentally tweeted about bin laden"... ffs it's just too Hmm for words!

i am naturally sceptical tho

marmaladetwatkins · 03/05/2011 20:46

Some people believe that he was killed and buried in 2007. Benazim
Bhutto claimed this just before she was assassinated and she predicted that she would be assassinated by the same people who got Bin Laden. It's just that admitting that wouldn't get Obama re-elected.

This isn't what I think, btw.

thisisyesterday · 03/05/2011 20:47

and al-qaeda wouldn't publish anything because that would just create another link to his possible wherabouts.... maybe that's the plan? pretend they've killed him and hope that people will then say "no, no you didn't, he;s right here"

troisgarcons · 03/05/2011 20:49

Why would you need a grave???

Jesus doesnt have one (a grave) - people flock to Bethlehem ...... where there is a need to create a martyr, people will find away ...... even the death spot will become a shrine to those who wish to pray ...... bit like those awful road side tributes to people who wrapped their car round a tree or bollard

Punkatheart · 03/05/2011 20:50

The DNA was a comparative one with his family - so again entirely plausible.

MsScarlett · 03/05/2011 21:05

Oh so his family willingly gave reliable DNA samples to the US government as well then? Hmm

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WannabeNigella · 03/05/2011 21:18

Thisisyesterday - he appeared in front of enough caves previously and they didn't manage to locate him via his backdrop rock.

The DNA was from a sister who died from cancer who I believe was estranged from him so I don't think the US are insinuating someone from his close family volunteered as such.

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FabbyChic · 03/05/2011 21:20

There is no way America would like about this, it would cause far too much embarassment if it were ever proved they lied.

squashycreech · 03/05/2011 21:39

Conspiracy theories are mad- basically you can never prove anything. How do you know Bin Laden even existed? He could have just been made up. How do you know al-Quaida exist? They could be a fake organisation the US invented as a way of creating a pretext for war.

Most of his family had disowned him, so it's entirely plausible they'd give DNA.

I don't understand why people are so quick to believe conspiracy theories that they have no evidence for.

MsScarlett · 03/05/2011 21:50

I don't believe there is some kind of conspiracy, I just personally don't think the US behaved well or lawfully IMO.

TiggyD · 03/05/2011 21:53

Some people believe the moon landings were fake, Elvis is alive, JFK was shot by a government hitman, UFO landings, lizard people etc. Some people are bonkers.

TheSilentBilingual · 03/05/2011 22:03

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.

In my mind, if you've lied before like the US government has, you're likely to lie again. And again. And again.

To be honest, don't even believe in 'big bad bin laden.'

squashycreech, exactly - just like there is no evidence for so-called 'conspiracy theories', there is also no evidence for so called 'fact.' Therefore why would I choose to blindly believe the 'facts'?

I just hope this all isn't leading up to something terrible planned by the TPTB.