AIBU?
to wonder with what authority USA killed Osama Bin Laden.
Mamaz0n · 02/05/2011 09:43
Since when has murder been justice?
Don't get me wrong, i think it is a good thing that he has died. I think that to imprison him would have caused massive uprising in violence and kidnaps etc.
But it bothers me that America has just decided that this man is guilty and therefore acted to murder him.
It is my (probably naive) understanding that you can't be extradited to a state that has the death penalty, so how exactly can Obama's order to kill Bin Laden be at all legal?
I have even just heard that the Pakistani government were not even aware that the USA were taking this action.
I am sorry but it sits very uncomfortably with me.
Mamaz0n · 02/05/2011 09:50
But only a jury can decide whether there is enough evidence surely?
What he did? It has been well documented that he didn't even organise the details of 9/11.
He is a religious extremist, yes and he has incited violence. But I dn't think what he is supposedly guilty of is more or less worse than war criminals.
Even Sadam Hussain got a trial and legal guilt was placed upon him.
I dislike the idea that America can "decide" that you are guilty and organise your execution and then brag about it all over the place.
It seems wrong to me.
strandedbear · 02/05/2011 09:51
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meditrina · 02/05/2011 09:53
They acted on US Presidential authority. The news this morning showed a clip of Obama's speech in which he stated that one of his first acts as President was to tell the head of CIA that his most important mission was to kill or capture UBL (yes, that way round).
I don't know if there were further international legal underpinnings to that authorisation.
mummyplum · 02/05/2011 09:54
strandedbear i feel suspicious, perhaps cynical!
In answer to the OP if it is to be believed the US Military do not have authority to take action in Pakistan, but the CIA do, so it would have to be a CIA-Navy Seal collaboration to make it "legal". Quite embarrasing for Pakistan, but convenient for Obama IMO.
NulliusInVerba · 02/05/2011 10:00
So Osama is dead now is he? Tell me something I didnt know.
I was tempted to start a thread over this but decided against it.
Its rather convenient isnt it? Now that we are all at war with Libya, need to get the other one finished.
He was apparently just sat in a camp, but nobody anywhere knew this.
The guy had ruined kidneys and no videos have been seen of him in years.
Oh and his body has been buried "at sea" where no one can see it. How convenient.
RudeEnglishLady · 02/05/2011 10:03
YANBU
Why not a trial like Saddam or Milosovic? I think it makes him more glorious to followers that he was gunned down like a hero. If he was standing in the dock having to answer awkward questions in a prison suit it would have been a bigger punishment I think.
This morning they had a picture of his face that had been shot and had blood on it on the news. That was a step too far for me. Its so disrespectful and I don't want to see it. He was a very bad man but surely its better to treat even the worst people with a basic humanity otherwise we damage ourselves in the process.
All I can think about is the reprisals that are inevitable. Very scary times.
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