to be pissed off at school revelations?

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Have name changed for this as the route in which I found out this info makes me very identifiable.

I always have my friend's DD on Teacher training days as she has to work at the school the DC attend.

My 2DC are off school today and tomorrow as the school decided to manipulate TT days so that the school broke up on 8th April(1.30pm) and return 3rd May. It means the school will be open on Polling Day (with extra safeguarding in place ) and we will not finish one day early in July as we normally do.

That's fine, but obviously 3 weeks and a day and a half makes life very difficult for WOHPs.

After speaking to my friend last night, it was revealed that the staff are not going into school on these 2 days as have worked/will work extra hours after school to make up the time.

Apparently, attendance at afterschool events will count towards this time, rather than actual training. Is this acceptable standrd practice?

AIBU to be pissed off about this?

Children are not little robots. They learn at widely different rates, even the same child in the same subject.

The worst classes I had at school were from a history teacher who used to set us a page to read every week and then answer the questions after it. No teacher I have met would try to get away with that nowadays. They actually want their charges to understand. Just ask some pupils in year 9 or 10 whether they learn more when there is a teacher there or when they have "cover". In cover they may see the information but it is rarely retained.

BTW a lot of teenagers think they have failed, and if you gave them the chance would just give up. They may still be able to get good marks/GCSEs. Others who want to learn find it hard to concentrate and cannot self-learn.

However if that is the kind of learning you want for your children, rather than to be taught, why not HE them with some guidance from exam syllabuses and textbooks? (Not proper HE which I know is far more than this.)

Give the class to a TA to supervise ... so you just want them minded not taught?

mrz.............but the wonderful teacher would of set all the work before he goes to the maldives would'nt he cause he is super teacher.

Good point, takethisonehereforastart.

at what point in the 9-5 day would that be GMC?

and when do I teach the TA what they need to deliver to the class?

In the part of the day he would normally do it every week...............

off back to the beach i can smell the bar be

Oh stop, for goodness sake. GMC is deliberating trying to wind people up. Don't feed her the ammo.

but I was enjoying it

You do realise that teaching involves more than planning the work?
Oral explanations, interacting whilst the activity is carried out, open-ended questioning and guidance? Planning the next stage in the sequence building on what happened in the session?
Otherwise you could plan a stunning session and then FB whilst the class did it.
Have you ever listened to a book, or a lecture given by a fantastic speaker who brought the subject matter to life? How does that experience alter when the same book is read in a monotone with poor phrasing, or the talk is droned at you with no inflection?
Teaching uses a huge range of skills.It's not just about the material.

Oh

But I thought she liked solving problems.

Perhaps you're right. Anyway, must go and plan next weeks' lessons; those DVDs won't buy themselves

'Children are not little robots'
But they could be. I'm sure if we put our minds to it, we could shape their little brains into compliance. Just need to get rid of a few minor details that are in the way...

Then you could just switch them off when their parents are at work... Christ, this is the FUTURE! Yeah!

Stasis chambers, learning wired directly to the brain. They needn't even be awake!

I work in a school and yes, many schools do TWILIGHT sessons as part of their INSET time. This is often as it fits in better with visiting speaers and trainers. It isn't just an hour here or there; ours are often 2-3 hours session at the end of the day. Beleive me it isn't just an excuse to be lazy and get a freebie day off. We still put int he same training hours. Infact many teaching staff put in over and above that all the time anyway.

IMO - yabu.

'those who can, do; those who can't, teach'

BTW - this is a complete misquote of the original, which actually doesn't have the same meaning anyway.

This thread is hilarious.

I probably work an average of 60 hours a week during term time. Multiply that by 39 weeks, and it makes 2340 hours.

If you mulitply a standard 40 hours working week (and many are actually more like 35-37) by 48 weeks (again, often fewer than that) it makes 1920.

So I'm already up on MoreBeta's standard week.

That's without doing any work in the holidays, which I always do.

Tell me, MoreBeta, in what way I am somehow working less than everyone else?

Many, many of the teachers here are missing the huge elephant in the room highlighted by the OP. It is this.

Every time a school shuts for a da or half day it is of almost no consequence to teachers. To many parents though it is huge because it automatically means they take 1 day out of their holidays to cover it. You teachers get a huge number of days holiday a year when you are not at work. The rest of us get 20 days on top of bank holidays. You are on holiday when your children are on holiday by and large so you never face this problem.

A couple of days here and there (eg due to snow days, training days, Election days and you have taken 10-20% of someones annual holiday entitlement. It was of no consequence to you because it was a tiny percentage of the days you work. It does not impact your holidays at all. Parents simply cant get childcare for occassional days - they have to take it as holiday.

Do you now undersand why parents get so wound up with teachers taking 'the odd half day here and there to do training' which you never take in your holiday period?

Did someone say something?

Sounded a bit like a door banging in the wind...

Oh ffs, INSET days DO come from our holiday period!!! How many more times?

Must be the hot air in here......

I think you have missed it somewhere MB, it has been discussed ad nauseam on many, many threads. Training days taken out of hols already etc etc.

Snow days etc would still impact parents whether the school was open all year or not, surely...you'd still need time off work?

PS: When I was an 'industry employee' I got 30 days plus bank hols as standard and the option to buy more, amongst many other perks. You have a bad deal.

"parents get so wound up with teachers taking 'the odd half day here and there" Do you really think that we teachers sit around choosing when we'll take some time out to piss off the parents. INSET days are a government requirement. Take up the issue with them, not us. 'We's jus' followin' orderz.'

I don't want to alarm you, MoreBeta but... some teachers are parents too

More beta - get your application in for teacher training- you're obsessed!