To think it should be a red rose and not a bloody dragon...

[Chil1234]

... if it's supposed to represent St George's Day? Dragons are Welsh, surely?

a white dragon?
now that's just pushing the bounds of reality....

Fair enough chil. I didn't doubt you about the rose - just liked the idea that your mind led you straight to rugby!

I think the dragon is a lot older, but I think it's odd we don't have an England flag - that's immediately recognizable and it's called the 'George cross' after all!

The dragon is a lot older. The white dragon.

Be careful looking at sites as it appears to have been taken on as a symbol by some interesting groups.

Image results from a google search for St George and the dragon A lot of green ones. A dearth of red.

MNHQ, you have given us a beautiful Welsh Dragon.

anyway its just a emote, on a forum, its not like the government have announced the theft of the welsh dragon and are now using it as a national symbol, i suggest you do as your name says and chill

Even the lion is problematic, because it's:

The lion and the unicorn
Fighting for the crown
Once a year, they come to fight
On a bright and chilly morn

I can't remember the rest of it, but there's also some mythology that the unicorn prevails in spring, and the lion in summer.

There's no "safe" symbol!

Not done a link before, but here goes

TudorRose

Here this says that the english rose is red AND white. The link used by CHil1234 did not actualy SAY the rose was red, just that the rose was the symbol of England. The picture was red, but that was just a picture of a rose, not the actual one seen in places. So there hahahaha

BTW Im from York so HAVE to have my say and get the whiteness put back in, [buwink]

Fine but you still lost

'anyway its just a emote, on a forum'
Did you not read all the pages on the cuppa emoticon?

A dragon is loads cooler than a rose.

It was a dragon, not a rose, that St George just chased across the rugby pitch at Twickenham after the St George's Day match this evening. Though actually, the dragon beat St George and scored a
try before they were both escorted off by the stewards...

The red dragon is wrong as the red dragon is the symbol of Wales.

A dragon is fine as it is St George's day and he is best known for slaying a dragon (probably representing paganism). But not red. No-one has ever said he slew the Welsh dragon. Most depictions show a green dragon, FWIW.

The rose may be one of the symbols of England but not a red rose - that's the House of Lancaster. You could also go for the oak, for John Bull, for a bulldog, loads of others.

And the red and white rose is, as people have said, the Tudor rose. It's not the English rose. Been more than 400 years since we had a Tudor on the throne.

The dragon at Twickers was red...

and it appears from your post that it won.

Actually the stewards won in the end - they were both marched off the pitch....