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AIBU?

to think these were old lady bitches?

91 replies

deliakate · 20/04/2011 16:05

on the bus yesterday. So glad I don't live in London - this was only DS's second ever bus journey. He's 21 months, I'm 8 months preg.

So lugged the pushchair on, and went to the area you park them in. Bus was virtually empty, but there were two semi-rotund old ladies sitting on the flip up seats. I politely asked them "excuse me, do those seats flip up so that I can put the pushchair there?". They both said "nooo, dearie". (old means around 65/70 - not doddery 80s in this case)

So everyone else getting on had to squeeze past me, bump, pushchair and a poor guide dog sitting opposite, whose owner was getting very unsettled. Freaking annoying. I got off two stops up the hill, as did the old ladies, at which point the seats flipped up behind them. I shouldn't have, but said to one of them "those seats DO flip up", and she said "I know!". Basically, I asked her why she hadn't moved, and she said the space was for wheelchairs and elderly people as well as pushchairs. I pointed out there were other seats for elderly people too, but nowhere else for a pushchair, and she said I was getting shirty. I just walked off.

It was more amusing than anything, but seriously, can't some people remember what it was like to be pregnant/ have a toddler?

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nickelbaalamb · 20/04/2011 16:39

Grin
I did think of the connection.

Jamie - I'm more inclined to bitchy - if they were worried about confrontation, they would have moved....

MadamDeathstare · 20/04/2011 16:40

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languagepedantic · 20/04/2011 16:41

I am 65 - I AM NOT OLD

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nickelbaalamb · 20/04/2011 16:41

Grin

okay, that's fine, if that's what you mean.

I think i'm a bit grumpy today. Shock

FlamingJamie · 20/04/2011 16:42

I choose to use the word to in the correct context, too

MrSpoc · 20/04/2011 16:47

Im lost. Whattt???????

MollyMurphy · 20/04/2011 16:56

If there were lots of other places for them to sit and there was time for them to move before the bus started off then they should have moved IMO. There is only one place for the pushchair where its not in everyone elses way. Elderly doesn't always equal incapacitated - sounds like these ladies were mobile enough and were just being superior.

MrSpoc · 20/04/2011 17:02

exactly MollyMurphy - Point well made. We should start to Buggie all daft old bats on buses who choose not to play ball Smile

FlamingJamie · 20/04/2011 17:03

BINGO! (again)

bonkers20 · 20/04/2011 17:04

It's not just London.
Regardless of the old ladies' behaviour I do think someone else might have helped you e.g. offered you a seat, helped you fold the buggy so your toddler could sit on your knee.
I've been blocking the aisle of a bus trying to fold a buggy and hold on to a toddler while everyone barges past (got to get seat, got to get a seat).
A couple of times I've been so incensed that I've told anyone listening that if someone might help me I'd be out of their way.

I do think you forget what it's like, or once you've over the stage you're just so relieved you sit there with your nose in a book trying not to see the struggling parent, hoping someone else will help.

FlamingJamie · 20/04/2011 17:07

bonkers - ah yes I remember it well. And my bloody MacLaren with the wheels that did their own thing, and the dodgy brakes. I've done the ranting-at-no-one-in-particular. So glad to be past that stage. And I always offer to help. Just last week I got a toddler out of a tantrum

MrSpoc · 20/04/2011 17:11

How did you do that Jamie? I bet you gave them a fruitshoot and a greggs sausage roll.

capricorn76 · 20/04/2011 17:28

It doesn't matter if the OP didn't pay because the old ladies wouldn't have had to pay either.

PeachyAndTheArghoNauts · 20/04/2011 17:35

Buses vary- here on one side it's elderly and disabled, on the other pushchairs and the disabled. They did away with the luggae rack so it's hard to fold and carry tucked against you as well as hold a toddler

mamatomany · 20/04/2011 17:37

I have made the old dears move before now, some poor girl was struggling on the bus with two toddlers and a bump and everyone sat and watched her. When she nearly feel on her head I stood and said can you move please in a i'm not asking you tone and to my surprise they all did, but why did they have to be asked, people are so wrapped up in themselves grrr

PeachyAndTheArghoNauts · 20/04/2011 17:38

And yes- parents would be well annoyed to be called old LOL! Dad would have cheerfully helped fold buggy and then carried shopping whilst entertaining baby..... at almost 70 he is far fitter than me, even with a dodgy leg he managed to cycle to his manual (inustrial cleaning) job.

The age at which you can be old, it seems to me, is somewhere between about 27 and 91 (coz Grandad is 91 next month and pretty adept- driving, independent, although Aunt is miffed he has let his agrden go a bit Confused), personality driven more than number of accrued years!

TallulahBetty · 20/04/2011 17:41

That is so rude! YADNBU!

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 20/04/2011 17:44

You're unreasonable, OP and your first post stinks. Hmm

You assume that ladies between x and y age are not doddery - how would you know?
You assume that because the bus was stationery that the ladies would have felt confident and limber enough to move, not knowing when the bus suddenly would move. I've seen elderly people start and/or fall when buses move suddenly and they break bones easily.
You assume that you have a right to the flip up space because of your buggy - you don't. What about people with large suitcases/backpacks or wheelchairs. Would you have moved if somebody with a non self-limiting condition had needed the flip up space?

You're pregnant, with a toddler, people should have consideration for others who might need the special area/seats, but you're the one with the unbelievable sense of entitlement and you have the affrontery to refer to elderly women as 'bitches' so anything you said after that means not a lot really. Hmm

FlamingJamie · 20/04/2011 17:45

Spoc - nah - smack round the chops. Ackchewly I got down to her eye level and spoke in my best Joyce Grenfell posh-and-animated voice and she magically desisted. I would have looked aright banana if it hadn't worked as the whole bus was listening in. And then I had a lovely conversation with her harassed mum.

FlamingJamie · 20/04/2011 17:46

BTW - I talked to her about what she was holding and about her shoes (the toddler, not the mum). I did not merely tell her to shut up.

hmmSleep · 20/04/2011 17:49

My Dad always calls pushchairs trolleys, I always thought he was a bit odd, but it would seem it's just that he is Mancunian.

Oh, and YANBU, they were rude.

deliakate · 20/04/2011 18:02

They were kinda calling themselves old by saying they should sit there due to their elderly status. I certainly didn't call them bitches to their faces, but I still think that's what they were.

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PeachesandStrawberry · 20/04/2011 18:09

Oh dear LyingWitch

Chill.

OP YANBU

GandTiceandaslice · 20/04/2011 18:16

I remember once oh a half empty bus, a person refused to move. So I got my pushchair in. The baby kicked him for the entire journey. And I dodn't stop him.
If there is space, people who don't need those seats should move.

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