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To think Australians have a bloody cheek

53 replies

MikeOxstiff · 18/04/2011 19:34

On a talk radio station today the topic was Australia is deporting an English criminal back to England.
This man moved out 40yrs ago when he was 6 and never took up Australin citizenship and now he has served his prison sentence he is being sent to England
Is this the thin end of the wedge. I hope they dont start sending back the descendants of criminals that the UK sent out

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esselle · 19/04/2011 07:37

I am more than happy for him to be deported. The news story fails to mention that he served a 12 yr jail sentence for attenpted murder of a police officer. He has a history of violence - seeya buddy! That's the rules!

I live in Aust, my DH is a Brit and last year got his Australian citizenship. It is not a difficult or expensive thing to do. He joked that he did it so he could commit crime and not be deported! Smile

Morloth · 19/04/2011 07:43

abithormonal

He has had 29 years since turning 18 to apply for Australian citizenship.

Once again, he could have just not committed a bunch of crimes, I have managed 34 years now without once attempting to murder a police officer, it is quite easy.

All of this is on him, he didn't have to commit crimes, he didn't have to not apply for citizenship, he didn't have to go to Bali and draw attention to himself.

Tough shit.

goingroundthebend4 · 19/04/2011 07:47

Dam and bugger wish he did not have Brit citzenship as I would rather not have him in this country too.So can hardly blame the Aussies for wanting to kick him out.

SkinittingFluffyBunnyBonnets · 19/04/2011 08:12

Why do people keep seperating the English from Australians when they're speaking of who stole the country from the indigenous people of Australia? The Australians who did that WERE English.

breathing · 19/04/2011 08:24

That was my point skinitting. I dont think some people understand who Australians are. The amount that are from the original "settlers" are in the minority. Australians are made up of a huge and diverse population - immigrants from many countries, third, fourth and fifth generation and the indigenous people as well.
The amount of decsendents of these dreaded "Australians" who stole the country is so minimal that it is even quite a rare thing and much kudos to be traced to an early setller.

TethersEnd · 19/04/2011 10:43

Good lord.

I was pointing out the irony.

Breathing, Australians (save the indigenous population) are ALL settlers, regardless of their origins. My point remains. If Australia wants to go down the 'send em back' road, they need to be aware that it'll be a bloody long one.

At the very least, every Audtralian is 'guilty' of receiving stolen goods...

Get0rfMoiLand · 19/04/2011 10:46

Think it's rude to say that Australians are the descendents of thieves and robbers.

fair on the australian judiciary to kick him out.

SkinittingFluffyBunnyBonnets · 19/04/2011 10:47

Well it won't be a long road Tethers...because the majority have Aussie passports...and those that don't are at risk of deporatation at any time.

mamatomany · 19/04/2011 10:49

I wish we'd pack more bloody criminals off, one illegal guy killed a child with a hit and run and then managed to find himself a wife and 2 children before it got to court so he couldn't be deported from the UK. Why do we allow this to happen, try it anywhere else in the world and there'd be an outcry.

expatinscotland · 19/04/2011 10:52

He never took up nationality. He commited a crime. Gets deported.

How is that cheeky?

What Morloth said. The UK is just a sucker soft touch for not booting out fuckers who commit crimes here and are not nationals, tough shit for their 'human rights'.

expatinscotland · 19/04/2011 10:54

Oh, that was that other one, too, some Italian guy who murdered a man here and then got to stay because of his 'human rights'. Never mind the rights of the man he killed . . .

frazzle26 · 19/04/2011 10:57

I think they've got the right idea. We've got far too may immigrants here IMO both legal and illegal. Australia is a country far bigger than us with a much smaller population yet we are getting more and more overcrowded by the day. If they can deport someone that is there illegally then good on them. We should be doing the same then perhaps our benefits system wouldn't be such a shambles- or our NHS for that matter.

rubyrubyruby · 19/04/2011 10:58

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TethersEnd · 19/04/2011 11:13
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TethersEnd · 19/04/2011 11:37

Wasn't to you ruby Wink

Morloth · 19/04/2011 11:44

I think tethers is saying that pretty much the entire population of Australia are 'illegal' immigrants.

expatinscotland · 19/04/2011 13:31

Oh, c'mon, FFS, tethers. Today, Australia is a country with border rules just like every other country has. If people go there, who are not nationals and chose to break the law, is it really such a shock and travesty if they're deported?! For real?

[rolls eyes]

expatinscotland · 19/04/2011 13:33

Yes, they're all illegal, Morloth, and all of them are personally responsible for the past crimes of colonialisation, apparently. By that token all Germans today are responsible for Hitler and his atrocities, all English people are responsible for the atrocities of Irish occupation, etc etc.

So Australia shouldn't deport any non-national who commits crimes whilst there.

Hmm
TethersEnd · 19/04/2011 13:43

Cycling Kerrist... I am pointing out the irony

Same goes for the US, BTW expat Wink

expatinscotland · 19/04/2011 16:44

And your point is?

Seriously, the guy had almost 3 decades to naturalise, chose not to, chose to break the law, served time, surprise! surprise! He's being removed.

It's a modern nation with rules regarding immigration and people who commit crimes there who are not nationals.

BFD.

MadamDeathstare · 19/04/2011 16:53

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TethersEnd · 19/04/2011 17:52

I can see that this is an irony free zone, and I have clearly broken the law.

expatinscotland · 19/04/2011 17:58

It's called 'removal' nowadays Wink.

Morloth · 19/04/2011 20:33

There is no more irony in Oz doing this than in any other country.

All countries have a history of change, it is just that Australia's is more recent than many.

That's the way it goes.