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To ask if there is a "No God Botherers Please" sign I can put up in my porch?

180 replies

Fab123 · 16/04/2011 10:42

OK, here's the rant (please bear in mind I'm pg and getting big enough now that getting up and down stairs for no reason is enough to make me want to throw anything to hand at your head):

I live alone and have 1001 things to do before baby arrives in July. At the bottom of my road is a fairly large church (does Alpha Courses, not sure what that makes them but strong flavoured Christians I imagine). Now I know it is Easter coming up and everything but I have just had to open the door for no less than the 7th time IN ONE WEEK to a couple with a leaflet about Jesus.

I know this sounds petty but when you have an open can of paint that you need to suddenly cover and check cats can't get to, need to manoeuvre yourself from the comfortable position you have finally found on the sofa or come breathlessly running in through the house from the garden...it's driving me a bit balmy!

I've told he last 4 couples that I have had a constant stream of them since last week but it doesn't seem to be getting back to their HQ. How strong is this community they hark on about if they can't even tell each other which road they have canvassed? And are they wasting collection money on all of the flyers and leaflets I get given and thrust through my door that go the same way as all of the kebab house leaflets?

My Q is: Is there a sign out there that I can put up (similar to the No Sales Callers) that used to be popular?

OP posts:
QuintEggSentialPaints · 17/04/2011 13:44

Alpine, the Irish dont go knocking on peoples doors trying to convince them to move to Ireland, and black people dont try to convince people to become black. Your argument is ridiculous.

NorthernGobshite · 17/04/2011 13:51

Alpine I use 'god botherers' to refer to anyone of any religion who chooses to knock on my door uninvited. If I was even vaguely interested in religion I would ask them round. Apart from chuggers who I also find very irritating there are no other "sections of society" who knock on doors under the deluded idea that they have the right to push their bullshit down others necks.

onagar · 17/04/2011 14:26

AlpinePony, you have misunderstood the difference between not liking what someone does and not liking what they are.

xStarGirl · 17/04/2011 15:11

Arf at Alpine. Being black or Irish isn't a religion, as QuintEgg said, and they won't try to convert you to being black or Irish. Completely different to JWs or Christians trying to foist their beliefs on people, especially the vulnerable, lonely members of society.

Also, if a Muslim/Jew/Hindu/whatever came knocking on my door, the same principle would apply - I'd tell them to bugger off.
Actually, they don't though, do they? It's only ever Christians Hmm

Did meet a lovely Hindu selling books about his religion on the high street once. He wasn't pushy, and was very pleasant to talk to if you were happy to stop. If not, he let you pass by with a smile.
Why can't everyone be like that?

beanlet · 17/04/2011 15:37

onagar I agree; it is indeed rude and rather stupid to ignore someone's sign that they don't want you to knock. But that's no excuse for being rude and nobbish oneself. At least not at the outset, before they've even had the chance to knock. Then you really are just being rude to someone on the basis of their religious beliefs, and I don't think that's acceptable in a pluralistic society.

LDNmummy · 17/04/2011 15:44

Alpine that is seriously stupid. A black man or Irish man would hardly be coming uninvited to shove their culture, skin colour or socio-economic issues down your throat.

LDNmummy · 17/04/2011 15:46

Thank you Solar, I do get a bit carried away on MN and type thoughts without forming them coherently sometimes. I feel a little less silly now Smile

ilovesprouts · 17/04/2011 16:28

Its bad enough rapping on strangers doors but on a Sunday morning? Fuck the fuck hammyo2 love it made me lol

ilovesprouts · 17/04/2011 16:30

oops missed the off

MrsDrOwenHunt · 17/04/2011 17:19

to be fair if anyone can be arsed to walk up 3 flights of stairs to be told to feck off to walk all the way back down again, can bother who they like as far as i am concerned!!

speffles · 17/04/2011 17:22

YANBU - it's one thing to call occasionally but what they are doing borders on harassment.

FriggFRIGG · 17/04/2011 17:51

urgh,this drives me mental....
particualy when they inform me my NEWBORN BABY will be going to hell and its my fault. Hmm

might buy that sign myself....

onagar · 17/04/2011 19:29

beanlet, well as I said earlier my sign simply says 'No Religion - No Selling' because I don't want to be bothered by either. Though I can understand why someone would make it more forceful if it were ignored.

How about:
Don't peddle religion here unless you want your head pounded on the doorstep to the tune of onward Christian soldiers

Personally I find the way to avoid a repeat is to explain my view of all religions.

SolarPanel · 17/04/2011 20:15

Why does the word "peddle" only appear on religious threads?

SaggyHairyArse · 17/04/2011 20:57

I have no time for religious callers. Not since the time when I answered the door to he JWs who when I told them I did not believe in God because X,Y and Z had happened in my life and I had to terminate a pregnancy and lost my first baby and I didn't think a God would put people through stuff like that. Half an hour later they were back with articles from their newletters of people who had found God after the loss of a child that had photos of stillborn babies in the leaflets.

Al0uiseG · 17/04/2011 21:16

I hate uninvited people knocking on the door (unless they're friends) it makes the dog bark, I have to stop what I'm doing and listen to some unsolicited real life spam. We can have telephone preference service and mail preference service, ad blockers and spam filters yet our own front door seems to be considered a free for all.

I'd love my road to be gated for that very reason.

alistron1 · 17/04/2011 21:21

last friday we had an evangelical christian knocking at our door collecting money for 'disaster aid'. She was a nice older lady, very gentle etc, I explained our atheist position but gave her a quid for her troubles and she blessed me. I quite enjoyed being blessed!!!

I don't mind religious people who have the courage of their own convictions coming knocking on my door, I do object to energy salespeople though.

onagar · 17/04/2011 21:58

SolarPanel, because religions do a lot of peddling.

SolarPanel · 17/04/2011 22:04

But then so do lots of other people about their opinions and ideas, or things they'd like to sell....

EmmaBemma · 17/04/2011 22:08

I don't know whether anyone's made this point but isn't it quite a central tenet of Christian dogma that its followers need to actively try to convert people? That being the case, they probably don't really want to have to knock on all those doors but are doing it because they think they're supposed to.

SolarPanel · 17/04/2011 22:14

We're supposed to spread the good news about Jesus Christ, but that can be done in many ways.

The "in your face" approach isn't necessarily the most Biblical, and is such a turn-off to a lot of people that I can't imagine it's the most effective either.

The most important commandments in any case are to love God, and to love our neighbour as ourselves.

LeQueen · 17/04/2011 23:04

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SolarPanel · 17/04/2011 23:06

So if I met you in the pub LeQueen, and mentioned that I'd been to church the previous day, would you leave me the rest of your drink?

LeQueen · 17/04/2011 23:11

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flyingspaghettimonster · 17/04/2011 23:48

YANBU - I think God-botherers is mild! Put whatever sign you like up - I live in a highly Christian area with a large proportion of folks that believe in creationism - I have an FSM sticker and a t-rex eating the Christian fish symbol on the back of my car. Everyone else has religious number plates like 'bless us' or 'for him' - why shouldn't non-Christians be allowed to express their disbelief as openly as others show their beliefs? I have no problem with religious nutters people, but when their opinions get forced upon me, I resent it.

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