Fat free youghurts versus Libya

[Indaba]

Maybe I shouldn't have logged on to Mums net tonight....but I have read many threads tonight re playground politics, re school-lunch box Nazi's, re frighteningly well dressed mums at drop off and am thinking......many of us are really a lucky bunch compared to what a lot of people are going through at the moment, tonight, right now...Libya, Ivory Coast etc etc.

And whilst I am not disagreeing with the sentiments expressed.....and I LOVE Mums Net...its an essentially fabulous place to share, laugh, exchange a moan, communicate freely, make a joke and to off load (which is oh, so precious) ....at the same time can we also take a moment to consider how lucky many of us here are.

Indaba leaves to put on her hair shirt and awaits comments.................

Yes it was definitely the yoghurt.

Fair point Enderby

I posted on the overseas post last week and got a thread going about living overseas....had read lots of threads about the difficulties re moving overseas re expat allowances, schooling differences, making friends and so we got a thread going saying...here are all the benefits about living overseas

OMG...am turning into Pollyanna......must be the drugs I'm on

Indaba I get what you mean.

There is a lot going on all over the world that we should be thankful is not directly affecting most of us whether it be poverty, war, famine, abuse etc etc it is all very :(

BUT

We cannot put aside most of our day to day problems which seem so incredibly important to us because they do directly afeect us, thus magnifying the angst they cause compared to seeing things on the TV.

Yes I am thankful for what we have here, we as a family may not have much but we also have much more than some and for that I genuinely do feel privelaged but that all gets put to the back of my head 95% of the time whilst I think of the 'problems' I have here and now.

Hope that made some sense and YANBU...

What made you decide not to post this in the Bereavement topic?

Thankfully, something stopped you and you posted it here instead.

But it's all relative, isn't it?

I was thinking that maybe I'm not as lucky as the Gaddafi family hangers-on who get to have private concerts from 50 Pence and Nellie Furtado etc, but then I realised that that would be entirely untrue.

it's relative in that we're incredibly lucky and others aren't

but perhaps you mean -- actually we've always got something to moan about despite libya

Indaba lights spilff* and says am really not asking people to put away their daily worries...just to celebrate what they have too, at the same time.

Blimey, this was supposed to be a nice thread and have completely c**ked up by posting in AIBU and not in chat....really didn't mean to have a go.

(*and now realises am going going to have eons of threads re drug taking and smoking).......maybe should just have posted a wine emoticon instead

We need a [spliff] emoticon,really Indababa!!

You really are smoking aren't you??LOL @ spillf .

We'll be shut down soon by MNHQ.......but in the mean time, here is a big blow back

Eeek.I would be unconcious but could try to channel 20 year old self,:)

I know lots of immigrants so i appreciate that as a single woman i'm lucky to live in the UK, and i'm lucky that i have access to free NHS healthcare.
I get what you're trying to say, Indaba, but most of us are already are aware that there are many unpleasant places in the world. Many of us have grandparents who went through ww2, went shoeless, lived in slums and were half-starved.

I don't think YABU exactly and you mean well, but it's all relative.
Eg. I'm already worrying about debt, my home, being ill, and keeping my job so fat-free yoghurt beats libya for me.

Actually full fat yoghurt is nicer.

Off to bed now....live overseas so its a bit later here.

Night everyone.

Didn't mean you were all heartless, I've been on MN to know better and next time will post on the "Always look on the bright side of life" thread

Have learnt my lesson re people getting flamed on AIBU

Indaba wanders off aimlessly, whistling................

Well, sorry to piss on your hippy campfire, but there are relatively few places where people are simply innocent victims of misfortune (Japan at the moment is one).

Shit societies are almost always shit because the people listen to some illiterate priest, imam or witchdoctor who tells them not to allow their children to be vaccinated, not to use contraception, and to suppress their women.

I find places like China (where I have lived) hugely encouraging. Their standards of living are rising rapidly because they concentrate on education, science, equality for women, and limited family size.

I don't waste emotional energy feeling sorry for people who would gleefully stone me to death in a football stadium because my husband was not the first man I had sex with, by a long chalk. Or where I wouldn't be able to hold a job, or have only as many children as I could support financially. Or where my gay friends would be executed for being abominations in God's eyes.

I was lucky to be born into a society that values science over religion, but I think you are overlooking the fact that very often people are the authors of their own misfortune.

me illiterate priest, imam or witchdoctor

actually they're often shit because enitrely governments steal all their money, steal aid money, are incapable of altruistic government and run lawless societies, rife with corruption

enitrely what governments?

entirely secular governments, that's what

conditions in China are rising because of economic growth

I don't think the gulags contribute much

Yes, and China's economic growth stems from not having half their population locked up at home raising 15 kids apiece, and from focusing on science and education. There's no Economic Growth Fairy who has chosen to wave her wand over China rather than somewhere like Yemen.

china..well there's a whole other thread.

we come here to talk. it doesn't have to be important.

China?? What about their abuses towards tibetans and other ethnic minorities? The social problems caused by a huge gender imbalance, lack of freedom of speech or information, poorly paid workers in who live in factory camps with high suicide rates etc etc. Oh, crap, now look what you started Indaba.

NineDragons so nice that you don't waste your emotional energy on women that do live in those societies........because, of course, they have complete redress & can always resort to the ballot, can't they???

OP smoke away, I will join you in one behind the bike shed for a chat about political corruption, venality & the wrong pram....

Actually in a lot of places (Philippines, South America) they do have recourse to the ballot box, so if they choose to vote in a government that outlaws abortion even for a 12-year-old who's been raped by her father, my sympathy is with the 12-year-old and not the people who voted for the government.