To want to have a mad rant about people who park in mother and baby parking spaces

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Why, just why? its not so much that the spaces are closer to the shops but the extra space they give you means the buggy can go next to the car while unloading all the shopping, instead of leaving the baby near the road.

People are so unreasonable to park in them just because they are close to the shops, I so want to shout at people with no kids who use them but so far I havent..... have you?

YADNBU
I hate this I drive a 3 door car and always struggle to get my son out the back seat.
My worst experience is when parking in asda there were no P&C spaces left I parked in a normal space but more to one side of it to give me more room at DS side (I was still within White lines though) the bastard parked next to ne kindly scraped the front end of their car up the full lenth of my car damaging 2 panels and the door! Then drove off
Obviously the CCTV didnt catch it never does.

My other experience I did manage to get p&c space a guy drives up alongside me rolls down window shouts that I'm in p&c space I get really annoyed and shout that my 1yo is in the back. He parks in normal space just up from me, I'm struggling with buggy etc he strolls past with a 15yo (or thereabouts) at which point I start laughing and say is that your baby he replies yes he'll always be my baby totally serious.

I think the only way to resolve this is to either move them all to back of car park or give new parents a 3 yr permit when registering baby and fine non permit holders.

Where does it say I feel the need to park in them? Or that I have no children?

I think they cause more trouble than they are worth and I also said that where I live they do not exist. P&C spaces I mean, not disabled.

thats a good idea!

But wheres the consideration for the elderly? people in a huge rush? people with massive shopping to do? ......everyone is going in there for the same reasons to buy things .......all our money is the same-why should p&c get 'extra' consideration?

P&c spaces have a lot of extra room in comparison to "normal" spaces where you cannot squeeze out of the car unless you are a size zero (Morrisons is a good example). Hence the result. I always thought these will be abused a lot less if they were positioned much further away from the shop. Parents and children can walk extra distance with no problem.

While I am all for Obeying The Rules, I really don't get the hysteria over P&C parking spaces. It is extremely rare for a supermarket carpark to be so full that you can't get space to get in and out by parking further away. The way some people go on about it, you would think that a lack of P&C spaces means that they can't go shopping. They are a fairly new thing - people have been driving with children in cars for many years without a problem.

If I see someone parking in a P&C space without a child then I think they are a selfish, slightly crap person, but I don't feel the need to get into a confrontation over it - I certainly don't have pre-printed rude cards. Seriously? It upsets you that much?

I also don't understand the argument that you need extra space to get more than one child out of the car. Presumably you can only lift one out at a time?

I think a lot of this issue would go away if people simply learned to park better or drove smaller cars where they only have one or two children. DS goes to nursery in a leisure centre with tiny parking spaces and lots of pillars between spaces. I have lost count of the number of arguments I have seen over spaces, or the number of massive cars lined up waiting for a big enough space. I drive a pretty small, 2-door car and can drive straight into one of the spaces that has been rejected by someone whose car is too big or whose parking skills don't run to reversing into a tight space with a pillar on one side.

Passes??? permits gah my moneys the same colour as theirs wheres my considerations??.

You drive to the supermarket,theres trolleys there to put the children in,you shop,you pay,you load your car up- its not a 10 mile hike - Christ on a bike in my day you couldnt even catch a bus with a pram- we had it hard,did we petition??? (nickschick was a mum in 1993 not 1953)

Kungfu a woman once asked my H ( a professional driver) to park a little more to the left of his 'box' as she couldnt get out of her car as shed parked wrongly - he said reverse out and level up - she replied she couldnt???

I said I work for the ministry of transport if you have a valid driving license you should be able to reverse and park its a requirement of passing the test ..... she swore at me and reversed (badly) and drove away .....

I dont work for the ministry.

Ah but nickschick, were you not on the disabled toilet thread? Apparently we are "disabled by our environment". Didn't you know?

Oh crikey thought youd rumbled me then lol(until I realised its a true thread) ......I went in the disabled loo at asda this week (dont ask how but id put my knickers on wrong and they were digging in and I simply couldnt climb the stairs to the non disabled ones) and the woman from the local chemist saw me and said she didnt know I was disabled so I said I had bad knees and then had to limp all round the store H was like this >>>.

I didn't neccessarily mean you Katiepoes, I just meant people who park there without really needing to in general. It wasn't a personal comment to you at all.

Nickschick - I had that same thing a little while ago. I pulled into the last space in the carpark just after a woman drove into the space next to it and despite much faffing finished up parked right across the line. Fortunately I have a small car, can park and there was a pillar on the other side which meant that I could park tight against it and know that no-one could clock me in on that side. So I drove in and climbed out over the passenger seat as there was no room on the driver's side. While I was getting DS out she started huffing and moaning about how she was going to get her (probably about 7 or 8 year-old) child out and how he was going to have to climb over. I did point out that she was the one taking up about an extra third of a space and she indignantly told me "well it's not my fault I can't park - I have a big car".
I said "I don't" and smiled and walked away.

I think some people spend way too much time on here, unless they have changed the rules I believe this is still a forum. Parking and dog shit come up a lot because those things affect people.

How on earth do you put your knickers on wrong??? That just made my day that did :o I think if I were your DH I would've wet myself laughing.

Jasminetom - that probably didn't need saying twice.

Melly somehow Id put them on so the leg hole was round my waist ??? (im 36 never done that trick before) and they were very tight I thought I might have been cutting my circulation off........and If Dh had of wet himself hed have had to drip upstairs to the non disabled loos as chemist woman was still hanging around......

Oh dear :o I managed to put a pair of knickers on back to front once then spent most of the day wondering why the hell I had a constant wedgie.

nickschick Oh hello, "disabled by the environment" person. Feeling ok enough to venture into the outside world?

Id love for someone to give me a pre-printed rude card for daring to try and be treated as equally as the "mothers and kid" massive

i managed to get the last P&C space yesterday - there were hundreds of spare spaces at the far end of the supermarket they could have parked in without fear of being pranged from someone else when they opened their door wide, so did i feel guilty, did i hell :)

why should i have to park further away because their 10 year old cant be arsed to walk a few hundred yards

Whitevanwoman you are doomed.......

goes to check disabled loo chat to see wether bemybebe is being facesious cheeky...... brb .

I have only just become a mum and I've been amazed by how annoyed I have become about people using these spaces when they don't have kids with them. I think there really are some odd people out there who will park in P&C spaces just to make a point but they must lead very odd lives if that's what rocks their boat. I think the majoroty of people who do it are just unaware of how important it can be for some parents to have space to keep their kids safe.

fwiw I never used the spaces until it became necessary and I get even more annoyed by people who obviously do have kids (empty carseat in the car or baby on board sticker) but don't actually have them with them... now that's cheeky!

Duelling- many feel like that when PFB rocks up on the scene. Thankfully most get over it and have a moment of mental clarity when they realise having a child really DOESNT disable them.

Nobody has said they are a divine right. But surely something that makes a mother's life easier should be respected. When you have 3 under 4 with you it makes a massive difference, it really does.

it doesn't disable me but it's really hard to get a car door open wide enough to get a carseat into the car when another car has parked right up against the passenger door.