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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to be jealous of my friend having a baby girl?

73 replies

namechangecentral · 01/04/2011 15:04

Yes, IABU. I know I am!! One of my friends had a baby girl today. It's her second DD. I have 2 DSs. I love them with every inch of me, but I'm so jealous she has had another girl. Ridiculous.
Although I'd probably have been annoyed if she'd had a boy cos that's MY thing - clearly I'm just a loon

OP posts:
Okonomiyaki · 02/04/2011 11:06

onceamai what a terrible time you have been through, I see why this thread must be incredibly upsetting for you.

I do think though that these are valid feelings people are expressing.

NanaNina · 02/04/2011 17:41

I too would have loved a daughter (3 sons, grown up now, and love them fiercely) BUT I think it's now I'm older I miss not having a daughter. My sons are ok but I can't discuss my feelings with them. Have been struggling with depression for over a year and they just don't know what to say or how to handle it. They hmm and haar but I can tell they are embarrassed. I am lucky to have really nice dils but it's not the same.

Also I think daughters are much more likely to care for their parents in old age - I am one of 4 girls and we all took turns to care for our parents who had been very loving and caring to us all of their lives. I don't mean I'm expecting them to take us into their home, but you know just a bit of caring. When my parents did finally go into a home in their 90s I noticed that there was only 1 man visiting his mother, all the rest were daughters, or maybe even dils.

I also think there is still truth in the old saying "A daughter's a daughter all of her life and a son is a son till he gets him a wife" My youngest dil said to me that after the birth of her baby girl, her mother had said how pleased she was it wasa girl because "you raised boys for someone else, you raisee daughters for yourself"

One of my sons actually said to me recently "mom I just don't deal with feelings like you do, you should have had girls and they would know what to say"

I have both boys and girls as gr/chdrn and I suppose at the end of it all, we should all be happy for healthy babies, regardless of their gender.

Journey · 02/04/2011 17:56

Perhaps when you see the baby girl it may reduce the jealousy. The reason being that you will have no maternal bond for the baby.

She might have two DDs but she doesn't have a son, and may have wanted one.

Nailitorelse · 02/04/2011 18:07

I have one boy and two girls. We all know there are pluses and minuses of having either sex. I really wanted a DD first time, but had a DS and couldn't wait to try again, although loving DS to bits.
However, one thing is guaranteed - it takes a man to make a girl - so you better tell your DH to go and do some testosterone building exercise, or find yourself another man!!

Nailitorelse · 02/04/2011 18:11

Preferably one with a track record already!!

Hardandsleazy · 02/04/2011 18:15

Agree with onceamai- one ds died at 21 weeks (anyone who eve goes on about being devestated at a scan re boy : girl - NO devastation is being told your child has no kidney, heart damage and brain damage and 0% chance of life outside the womb). I am so blessed to have dd and would love another but 3 mc and timeeans that is not likely.

I am sorry but threads like this or any other on gender disappointment make me very angry..

SofaSal · 02/04/2011 18:24

HardandSleazy I think 'devastated' is just one of those words that people use for a whole range of bad feelings from disappointed right through to utterly, utterly heartbroken. I don't think anyone would really think having a particular gender was on a par with what happened to you Sad.

I feel a similar feeling when people say they were devastated when their parents divorced because they didn't see mummy/daddy as often any more, I feel I was devastated when one of my parents died when I was a child. I guess its all relative. Doesn't make it any better though I suppose.

MinnieEggs · 02/04/2011 18:37

Jealousy is a vicious but natural emotion imo. BF won millions in lucky dip lottery some years ago and rang me immediately to celebrate and share her news. I went over straight away and 'had' (that's just how it felt at the time) to listen to all of her and her families plans for tomorrow and the future. It was pure unadulterated jealousy that I felt - never, ever been experienced by me to this degree. All I could think about was why not me? I hated this vile vile me and wished with all my heart that I was able to really celebrate with her the way she thought I was doing. Sadly, I will never forget that feeling so OP you have my absolute sympathy.

cloudydays · 02/04/2011 18:42

chipmonkey I feel like I'm stalking you these last few days, having just responded to you on the 'hopes for daughters' thread and on the rc thread yesterday, but this bit of your post was so interesting to me:

"I think in our culture, little girls are more valued than little boys. If you go into any high street shops, there are acres of cute clothes for little girls and very little for boys. Also, I have noticed that there is a pink version of everything but rarely a blue version. Mums of girls want to actively show that they have a girl, Mums' of boys tend to go for non-gender specific colours, so you have a bright pink version and then a lime-green-and-orange version"

That's such a different perspective than mine on the whole "pink-for-girls" thing! It's a view I never thought of and I can totally see your point. But as a mom to a dd, the fact that everything is pinkified for girls annoys the shit out of me. I'm trying to raise an adventurous, interested, capable person, not a pampered princess whose main concerns are looking pretty and shopping, and yet so many of the girls' clothes on offer are along the fluffy, frilly, impractical-for-play "princess in training" variety. I buy lots of stuff in the boys' departments. And regarding toys, I always buy the lime-green-and-orange (or preferably primary colours :) ) version, because it seems ridiculous to me that there's the 'normal' version, and then the version for girls. As if pink and purple are the only colours a girl should like, and the rest of the rainbow is for boys. Grrr. But your perspective makes sense too, and I can see how all the over-the-top marketing to princessy girls would be grating to someone with a ds (or four!). I know I've gone slightly off-topic but just wanted to respond to that bit of your post. It's good to see things from the other side!

For what it's worth, I'd love to have another child and if it happens I would be thrilled whatever the gender, but there is a small part of me that feels I'll have missed out on a really special experience if I never have a ds. So I can completely understand those feelings in reverse.

I can also understand why gender-preference threads cause anger and upset to some people, particularly those who have lost children. But people have a right to be honest about their feelings and to work through them, and if it helps, and as long as they're not being wilfully hurtful or insensitive, I don't think it's unreasonable at all to do so on a forum like this one.

ValiumSoltera · 02/04/2011 18:45

Feelings don't have to be reasonable, yeah. Good one.

I always thought I only wanted girls. I had a girl first and felt a bit smug to be honest. LIke I'd been lucky. Now roll on 8 years and by son is such an affectionate sweetheart. My daughter isn't happy unless she's psychologically torturing me. If I were ever to have a third, which I won't as I'm single then I would be praying for a boy.

just my 2 cents worth.

deedee321 · 02/04/2011 18:55

Everyone has the right to express their feelings, but lying here with my gorgeous new ds sleeping on me, cannot imagine a feeling further from disappointment!!! Blissed out with this boy.

cloudydays · 02/04/2011 19:01

deedee your post just made me soooo broooooooody Grin .

Congratulations

chipmonkey · 02/04/2011 19:30

cloudydays, I think we tend to see things through the lens of our own experience. I do notice a lot of women with daughters going round with a pink buggy, pink blanket, baby dressed head to toe in pink and occasioanlly those awful bows tied to their hairless heads and it screams to me "Look, I got a girl! Go me!" I have rarely seen anyone go all-out with blue for a boy in the same way!

But I do think if I had a dd that I probably would get fed up of the pink-or-nothing environment

oncemai I am really sorry to hear about your boys. Sad But I really don't think these threads are meant all that seriously. It's a little pang that you get over, rather than an all-consuming obsesssion.

Pinkjenny · 02/04/2011 19:44

I have a ds and a dd, and I cannot bear it when people say things like, 'Oh, I don't know what I'd do with a boy!' *narrows eyes at BF.

I think it's entirely natural to have a preference, anf for the OP to share her feelings. I was disappointed when I found out I was having a boy, but the love and devotion I feel towards him has been an amazing surprise. He is wonderful, as is my dd.

JingleMum · 02/04/2011 19:54

NanaNina - i thought your post was so sad Sad i'm so sorry you have depression and feel like you can't communicate with your boys. it goes without saying that they love you to bits and i guess they really just don't know what to say regarding your depression, most men just aren't great with expressing/sharing feelings.

i hate those saying such as "your daughter's your daughter for all of her life, your son's a son til he takes him a wife" and "you raised boys for someone else, you raise your daughter's for yourself" (never heard that one before i read this thread) i think it's a load of crap. it all depends on the family and the level of closeness etc.. it also depends on the son's personality or parent's personality. those f**king sayings would make women not want son's, those sayings are horrible.

ValiumSoltera · 02/04/2011 19:56

Pinkjenny, I took dd to ballet classes for a while and I swear it was populated mostly by all girl families. I'm going to get myself in trouble here I think, I don't mean to! but I just noticed that a lot of those ballet type families had several girls, and the mums knew how to do a chignon! Shock. My dd's hair was cut in a bob. I felt like people were staring at my son. Even amongst the siblings he was a rarity it seemed. She doesn't do ballet anymore though, because em,,, I raised a quitter. Blush

stylenotfashion · 02/04/2011 19:57

I'm grateful for the perpective given by those who have shared their stories of loss on this thread. I'm so sorry for you.

A healthy child is all you should wish for. End of.

PelvicFloorsOfSteel · 02/04/2011 19:58

I love both my DSs to bits and wouldn't trade either of them in for anything but do feel an occasional pang for the DD I'll almost certainly never have (and even just a DC3 no matter what gender).

It doesn't compare in any way to the pain of infertility or losing a child but I don't think anyone on this thread said it did. I remember watching a TV program where one woman compared not having a DD to being infertile and another woman left a scan in floods of tears after finding out she had a healthy boy and feeling so sorry for their sons Sad. A little jealousy is normal, if you feel like that you need professional help.

chipmonkey · 02/04/2011 20:39

Pelvic, I was in tears after finding out ds4 was a boy.Blush But tbh, when he was born I was delighted with him, he was so gorgeous! In my defence I had got a speeding fine on the way to the scan and I was already upset because SIL had had her baby girl two days before my scan and called her "my" girl name!

tbh, I shouldn't have found out. Pregnancy hormones make thing seem a lot worse than they actually are.

alemci · 02/04/2011 20:51

I have 2 DD and my youngest is a DS. I did want girls more intially as I was told that in my DH's family no one had girls so it was quite refreshing to have 2.

however now that they are teens I find my son alot more straight forward. The girls are very selfish especially ED but hopefully they will mature and we will get on better

Pinkjenny · 02/04/2011 20:59

Valium - isn't it annoying? I have the same problem. My best friend has two girls, and is at pains to let me know how close they are. Whilst my dc beat each other up. But I am immensely proud of ds, he makes me heart leap, he really does.

As does my dd.

ValiumSoltera · 02/04/2011 21:05

ha ha , my dc never stop beating each other up either. it's torture, for me. They would fight to the death over a segment of orange!

vmcd28 · 03/04/2011 10:38

Can't be arsed name-changing back - I'm the OP, and I'm really grateful you were all honest about these feelings too. I expected a LOT more of the "you should be grateful for your two DSs." The thing is, I am BEYOND grateful for them. If I was given the option to change one into a dd, I wouldn't even consider it! When I was pg with ds2, I hoped it was a girl, and I had a little disappointment when we found out at 21w it was a boy. But the day he was born I sobbed with relief that he was healthy (2previous MCs and he was high risk of Downs). That night, I remember staring at him in the hospital, my eyes full of tears, saying to him how sorry I was that I had even hoped he was a girl at any time. I am so in love with him that I almost can't bear it.
But all that doesn't mean I'm happy that I'll never have a daughter. That's a feeling that is separate from my wonderful boys.

wendyfromtheyard · 03/04/2011 11:01

I get a totally different attitude here in Ireland especially from the older generation. 4 fine sons! What more could any mother want.

stylenotfashion · 03/04/2011 11:01
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