the new education teachers of opposite sex can search pupils

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-12287022

it chilled me some of the regulations are very abolute power to the teacher ..and not in a good way. The opposite sex teacher can search students is horrific.
to balance it out though the mobile phone rules I agree with something needed doing.
Discuss your views.

Don't some schools have metal detectors on their entrances?

And just in case you were worried some scrote will bring in a knife to have a go at your child, you can also buy slash-proof school blazers lined with Kevlar.

I think it's a preventative measure. If children know they can be searched, they'll be a lot less likely to risk bringing their phones in.

Of course some won't care but I think there'll be more who do than don't.

I am sure there is the technology to block signals in buildings. If so, then that would be a good way to solve part of the problem, because they couldnt actually use the phones for calls or the internet.

They will still bring phones in, just like we used to hide cigs in our bra's when we were at school. Teachers wont be delving into pupils cleavage to check for phones no matter how much authority to search they have.

Jamming would be bad - it doesn't just stop at the school's perimeter and would be very unfair to the school's neighbours and passers by.

DH showed me last night.

It's of quite a big lad being bullied by a smaller one, he takes so much and then snaps, picks up the smaller one and throws him on the floor, he staggers about a bit obviously winded when he gets up.

I'm not sure what I think of it, I'm concerned the lad who got thrown on the floor has damaged himself in some way, but the other side of me thinks fucking good on yer for not taking it any more, the other child shouldn't have been such a twat tinker and got what he deserved.

Not particularly nice to watch, and probably pretty tame compared to other things that get videoed.

since a lot of kids are not ettin their first place schools and are oin to schools further away, and since they are not allowed to use their phones at school, wont the parents et worried if the kids have detention and end up comin home and hour later?

or do they expect that after school all kids are roamin the streets for hours anyway, so noone will notice they are late?

Wouldn't jamming interfere with teachers' mobiles and wifi connections for IT?
Can't parents just frisk their own child?

I don't know about the wifi connections for IT but most teachers aren't allowed mobiles during work anyway.

As for the parents frisking them, too many parents allow their kids to flout school rules anyway...then there are those who have left for work before the kids leave for school.

'most teachers aren't allowed mobiles during work anyway.'

says who?

My child will not be attending after school detentions no matter how much notice they give me ..... since the government is not in control of the cost of living and house prices meaning two parents have to work full time an unintentional consequence is that i am not at home at 4pm to check my cherub has arrived home safely, so nobody will be stopping her from getting on that school bus.
Perhaps they should have thought through the knock on effect of their policies in days gone by, that children now must have mobile phones and must be able to get home before dark independently.

Goblinchild It's written into many school E-Policies because of the cameras mainly. A lot of schools insist the staff lock them away and if they're caught using them, it's a diciplinary.

My child will not be attending after school detentions no matter how much notice they give me

Let's hope you're a) not going to sign the Home /School Agreement and b) that your little darling behaves impeccably/ hands in all homework on time then.

I agree with squeakytoy - no pupil needs a mobile phone in the classroom, or in school in general.

Not in my area, I wonder where?

"that children now must have mobile phones and must be able to get home before dark independently."

What does that mean? Children have always been able to get home independently before dark and they haven't had mobile phones.

This ties in with what I asked earlier - do primary school children get detentions or is this about secondary schools? because I do think that parents need warning if primary age children are going to be late as the parents are likely to be doing the fetching.

If not the parents then someone - GP childminder neighbour etc.

If this is about secondary only then obviously it's different.

*"that children now must have mobile phones and must be able to get home before dark independently."

What does that mean? Children have always been able to get home independently before dark and they haven't had mobile phones.*

Absolutely. What a load of bollocks.

Is this primary school as well though? My DD starts school in September and I wouldn't be at all happy with her coming home on her own in the dark. Or at all TBH.

What does that mean? Children have always been able to get home independently before dark and they haven't had mobile phones.

And a parent used to be at home waiting for them to walk through the door so if a child went missing within the first few hours the authorities could be alerted which increases the chance of a child being found alive.

I will be crossing out anything on a home school agreement which I don't agree with if I bother at all tbh which I haven't with the last 2 DC's with no consequence or even mention from the school which rather suggests they are a waste of time.

Actually my heart is in my mouth just thinking about it! Is it usual for primary school children to be expected to be independent in this way? I always consider myself not very "cotton wool" at all but I wouldn't have DD come home by herself in September, even though she doens't have to get a bus or anything.

I've never come across a primary school that has used after school detention. Named mobiles have to be handed in to the office in the morning.

I will be crossing out anything on a home school agreement which I don't agree with if I bother at all tbh which I haven't with the last 2 DC's with no consequence or even mention from the school which rather suggests they are a waste of time.

Parents with the view you express are exactly the reason it's so difficult for teachers to maintain discipline in school and exactly why it's so difficult for effective teaching and learning to take place. Sickening.

SQ, why are you worrying about your child coming home alone?
It's up to you to decide what happens to her, but in my school only Y6 can walk home alone, and that with signed parental permission.

Primary school children don't get detention, it's much older children, but even so I'm afraid mine will be getting on the bus, end of story, if she misses it in winter it's an hours walk at least in the dark down country lanes, it's simply not happening.