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To object to a friend taking the points for her partner's speeding violation?

42 replies

Longstocking2 · 23/03/2011 22:21

Even if it is possible?
That's fraud isn't it?

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MitchiestInge · 23/03/2011 22:22

It's possible. What a nice thing to do! Hope she or he appreciates it.

psychoveggie · 23/03/2011 22:22

Yes, it's fraud. She'd better hope it's not on camera. I know people that have done this repeatedly - even paying others to take the fines for them. It's pretty daft but I can sort of understand doing it for a partner if he's 3 points away from losing his licence and needs his car for work or something but... YANBU.

ZillionChocolate · 23/03/2011 22:23

It's perverting the course of justice. Which can get you sent straight to prison. I object too.

expatinscotland · 23/03/2011 22:24

I'd dob them in.

Speed kills.

I can't abide people who flout the law like this.

lockets · 23/03/2011 22:24

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MeRightYouWrongMeBigYouSmall · 23/03/2011 22:25

hmmm, depends whether friends dp will lose his license or not - I'd assume she would not be too happy about taking the flak but is merely doing it for the good of the family, i.e so that she can still rely on him to drive etc ....

it is possible and it is fraud but i do hear of this happening often.

i hope your friend trusts this guy to learn a valuable lesson here.

Nicknacky · 23/03/2011 22:26

Speeding means points/fine/a ban.....attempting to pervert the course of justice can mean jail time

expatinscotland · 23/03/2011 22:27

If he had so many points he knew he was in danger of losing his license he should have slowed the fuck down.

So I'd have no compunction about dobbing them in.

Kendodd · 23/03/2011 22:28

I know a few couples who have done this. In all cases the woman taking the man's points. One couple I know even got the wife banned from driving (rather than the husband) because it was deemed to be more important that he was able to drive than her, he worked she didn't.

lockets · 23/03/2011 22:32

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pinkieminx · 23/03/2011 22:32

Up to them - wouldn't interest me if friends did this - unless my friend was being pressured into taking the points.

expatinscotland · 23/03/2011 22:34

It would interest you if they went out and killed someone, maybe someone you loved, whilst exceeding the speed limit rather than having been banned the way they should have for somehow thinking the law doesn't apply to them.

Kendodd · 23/03/2011 22:35

I don't know any husbands who have taken their wives points though. Maybe they don't need to, we don't speed so much.

MitchiestInge · 23/03/2011 22:35

If they think the law doesn't apply to them why would they stop driving just because they were banned?

VivaLeBeaver · 23/03/2011 22:36

There was a case in the papers a couple of years ago where a woman did this for her partner and they both went to prison.

expatinscotland · 23/03/2011 22:37

It would mean they would at least be stopped from driving for work, Mitchy, if indeed they do.

pinkieminx · 23/03/2011 22:44

Doing 34 in a 30 gets you 3 points - if someone I knew incurred points like this over time - as most people I know are subject to SP30 points - and they risked being banned it would not interest me if they took the points. That's my opinion. Many people go over the speed limit - it's not just speed freaks

ilovesooty · 23/03/2011 22:45

I agree with those who say it's perverting the course of justice and both could (and deserve to be) prosecuted.

I'd ban anyone who does this (both parties) for life (unless the woman was being put under pressure to do it and was afraid to say no).

lockets · 23/03/2011 22:50

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ilovesooty · 23/03/2011 22:54

I once had a client in probation serving a community sentence for taking her brother's points. According to her pre sentence report she'd been too petrified of him to refuse.

He went to prison: rightly so in my opinion.

DeepPurple · 23/03/2011 23:04

You get 10%+2 before getting 3 points so in a 30 zone you'd have to be doing 35. Speedos are calibrated under so when you are doing 35 speedo would show roughly 38.
There is no excuse. If there is a photo of the driver (usually is) and a woman claims the points then there will be an investigation and both could go to prison.
If you can't take the points then don't speed. Simple.
Yanbu

FlorenceCalamityandJoanofArc · 23/03/2011 23:27

I've done it.No big deal

BitOfFun · 23/03/2011 23:29

My ex wanted me to do this, using the fact he had to drive for his job. I still told him to knob off.

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SharonGless · 23/03/2011 23:31

As others have said it is an offence of perverting the course of justice. It is taken very seriously by the courts and usually incurs a prison sentence.
Worth taking 3 points for?