to think anyone over the age of 25 playing computer games on their own should grow up?

[FlorencesMachine]

Maybe it's a generation thing, but I always thought computer games were for children

I keep hearing about Rift. Must check it out.

[in total agreement with LittleWhiteWolf]

Who wants to grow up anyway? Sounds very dull to me...

I have no interest in computer games but I do loads of things which aren't grown up at all so YABU (sticking tongue out emoticon).

Definitely. For the most part, it's exactly the same as WoW. But about 300x better. But I was getting bored of Warcraft anyway. I played a healer and the new expansion made it too hard, it just wasn't fun anymore, so I cancelled my subscription at Christmas.

stream Mario Galaxy 2. Like its predecessor, wonderfully imaginative, beautifully rendered and vast in scope.

Babylann - is Rift all PvP?

Perhaps, in response to this thread, we should also put upper age limits on television, the internet, reading, cinema's, pubs, theme parks, anything else you can think of?

Thanks, berlinnovels. Mario's not for me, (fps) but I saw the trailer a little while ago and was amazed at how much they pack into it.

Oooohhhhhhh, you're missing out.

You haven't lived if you haven't spent a few hours bashing away on JAMES POND

Adults only read serious literature, watch the programming on BBC4 and BBC News, eat wholesome food and read broadsheet newspapers.

Don't they?

Hahahaha- my 70yo MIL loves tetris and mario kart!
(she doesn't play so much these days, as she hasn't much time on her hands at the moment)

YABU

they aren't, at all. I love computer games, even very simple ones.

There are raids and dungeons, just the same as WoW, but yes, there is a lot more scope for PvP, though it's not forced on you.

I'm level 33, and I've had some great world PvP. The best thing is there is no massive gear inflation, so top levels can't just run in and one shot a low level. Me and DP were both able to kill level 40s when we were level 20. So, if PvP isn't your thing, you can at least rest assured that ganking isn't anywhere near as bad as it can be on WoW.

And the battlegrounds are much more fun in my opinion, even though they're essentially the same format. But my opinion could change when I get to top level, I've still got a few things to learn!

The best selling point for me though was there are certain things about Rift that you wonder why WoW never did them. Sometimes playing WoW made me feel like I was being punished for something I hadn't done. How difficult it was to earn enough gold to buy bags, etc. How you didn't get a mount until level 40. How you couldn't do any significant customisation to your character's talent specs until at least level 20.

Rift is different. You get your first mount whenever you get enough money, you can easily afford bags by about level 10, you start choosing your spec from the very first quest.

The only thing is that RP (don't know if you like that kind of thing) needs a bit more work from the developers. At the moment, the range from which you can hear a /s is a bit too wide.

takes deep breath

Ah but Harry Potter books are marketed for children and aimed at children. A computer game with a 15 or 18 certificate? Not so much. You wouldnt claim all films were aimed at children either, surely? They have similar certificates after all, unlike books, which do not.

Using that argument, do you never get any enjoyment out of a film aimed at children, because you are too "grown up"? Or do I need to grow up because I enjoy films like Toy Story or Labyrinth or Coraline or Spirited Away or The Lion King etc? (By the way, these were all films I loved long before DD was born and I had an excuse to watch kids films!)

DarkSkies, actually, my 60 yo GIL enjoys Crash Bandicoot

Also, having read the Harry Potter books and Lord of the Rings, I have to say sometimes reverting to a little childish entertainment can be a bit of fun.

YABU and outdated. There are loads of games now - from shoot em ups to ones that require creativity, get you fit or which really test your brain.

My mum loves her DS XL.

My favourite is Just Dance 2. And I'm a fan of some of the hidden object/puzzle games.

piprabbit

"Adults only read serious literature, watch the programming on BBC4 and BBC News, eat wholesome food and read broadsheet newspapers.

Don't they?"

I think you've summed it up for me. It must be something to do with the infantilization of society

Oh dear, op, you're a little old-fashioned, aren't you?

Some would say old-fashioned, some would say grown up!

Perhaps I should have made it clear. I think YABU.

Good grief, even Shakespeare indulged in silly jokes and puns. Archeologists have found the remains of games from sites across history. I certainly don't think that the need for fun and entertainment is new. The only difference is that we now have electronic media for delivering the entertainment.

Jesus wept, if that's what being an adult means you can keep it. I play the odd computer game on the laptop (Lemmings and Worms- keeping it old school), I like to go on the swings at the park, wrestle with the dog and blow bubbles in the garden. I appear to still be a viable member of society, I even read books and go to work! (In a toy shop, ner ner ne ner ner)

Well, I, for one, like the fact that I can enjoy both the Economist and Company magazine. And that it turns out I can also still eat jelly sweets and go clubbing without having my adulthood privileges revoked

"It must be something to do with the infantilization of society"

So if I watch BBC1 or read a Bill Bryson book I'm infantile? You're either arguing for the sake of it now or just very stuffy.

I'm really enjoying Dragon Age 2 at the moment - so cinematic and the dialogue is superbly written, also partial to a little Sims 3 on occasion and have been known to while away time on Plants vs Zombies - great strategy-based casual game that you can dip in and out of.

Gawd, if that's being a grownup, I'll pass thank you very much.