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to think that mumsnet are a bunch of Guardian-reading, laptop-wielding harpies

174 replies

lordtobyyoung · 17/03/2011 15:06

here

OP posts:
Ormirian · 17/03/2011 15:34

I am actively trying to lose weight at the moment. Because I want to stop having a squeezed middle.

TrillianAstra · 17/03/2011 15:34

SecretNutellaFix "Toby Young, for example..."

Exactamundo! :o

AddictedtoCrunchies · 17/03/2011 15:36

< I live in Royal Wootton Bassett and am very proud to do so. And I'm on MN. So ner. >

Oops I missed a word - I meant I live NEAR Wootton Bassett. Was married in the church there and DS was christened there too. PILs live there still and DH was born and bred there.

I don't read The Guardian though.

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 17/03/2011 15:36

Maybe he is GabbyLogon.

Hullygully · 17/03/2011 15:39

It's because he is so unattractive. It makes him insecure. Bless. Him and his little Free School for his special friends.

Ciske · 17/03/2011 15:41

Aha..... waaaaaait a minute. I get it now.

Journalist is 'leading efforts' to set up the West London Free School.

West London Free School was subject of a topic on mumsnet where some critical comments were made after which topic rapidly died out without much discussion.

Journalist retaliates for lack of enthusiasm by writing unfriendly article about Mumsnet.

Katiepoes · 17/03/2011 15:43

Toby Young is one of those men who meets a lot of harpies and lesbians and 'strident' feminists. Basically any female that dares disagree with him or think he's an uninteresting short bald witless twerp with the charisma of a sock puppet. Pretty much all of us I guess.

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 17/03/2011 15:44

Come to think of it I DO know someone who worked with Ed Milliband.....

southeastastra · 17/03/2011 15:44

hasn't he got a free school to open (with support from his old schoolmate dave)

reelingintheyears · 17/03/2011 15:50

Hey ho..'there's only one thing worse than being talked about and that's not being talked about'.

Oscar Wilde.

Up yer bum Toby Young.

Ponders · 17/03/2011 15:51

Oh I like this comment (from someone called trueblood):

"He who controls Mumsnet controls Britain."
Of course they do Toby. Mr Murdoch and the Barclays must be giving each other comforting hugs even now.

Is trueblood one of Us?

Bucharest · 17/03/2011 15:55

this is why he hates women and the Guardian

Plank.

controlpantsandgladrags · 17/03/2011 15:56

are we mostly SAHMs? I'm one but I was under the impression that most of you work...

Plus I don't own a laptop and have never read the Guardian. So ner.

GabbyLoggon · 17/03/2011 16:12

Seriously, politically I think we are a mixed bunch,

I look at most papers in the library. If a columnist is a good writer I dont mind their political stance.

As this parliament goes on there may well be less Coalition supporters...

I tend to support minorities (But not blindly)

A lot of people just are not interested in politics.

They spread their hands and say ....what can you do?

Snuppeline · 17/03/2011 16:14

I must live a sheltered life - I've never heard of the bloke. Horrid name though, so common. I much prefer Tobias. Why don't you change to that Mr Young? Toby sounds so, eh well quite Young like round about 5 yo.

Anyway too the point, I thought we were all pretty divided too? Poor/rich, breastfeeding/formulafeeders, stay at home/working, non? Not one heterogenous group of harpies but a diversified one? I have heard rumours there are even females of different colour and religion than I on here.

Now Toby-boy, two quotes from mumsnet on two discussions he has read is rather thin ground to draw conclusions on too. Well as a fulltime working, conservative voting, phd studying and laptop owning filly I think so. Think that falsifies your little theory, don't you?

bibbitybobbityhat · 17/03/2011 16:16

I see we have 600,000 registered members now.

It was a million a couple of weeks ago Confused.

Can't keep up!

ambarth · 17/03/2011 16:18

"In fact, judging from the discussion forums, it?s peopled almost exclusively by university-educated, upper-middle-class women who are only ?swing voters? in the sense that they swing between voting Labour, Lib Dem and Green. You know the type. She?s in her mid-30s, has two children at the local primary called Felix and Tallulah, lives in a Victorian house in North London, spends weekends in the country, drives a Fiat Multipla, gets her weekly shop delivered by Ocado, has a fondness for Green and Black?s chocolate and knows someone who knows someone who once went out with Ed Miliband. The closest she gets to the ?squeezed middle? is when she tries to wriggle into a pair of skinny jeans."

Mid thirties, NO
university educeted NO
upper middle class NO
victorian house NO
drives a Fiat multipla NO
weekly shop delivered by Ocado NO ASDA
"has a fondnessfor green and blacks chocolate" I have a fondness for any chocolate
Skinny jeans Blush

GabbyLoggon · 17/03/2011 16:18

Toby or not Toby ....that is the question. (Sorry about that)

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 17/03/2011 16:19

I think the motivation behind the article is this:

  • online advertising team at Telegraph want to attract more traffic because the torygraph's readership are clinically dead not aware of this internet thingummy
  • brief editorial to come up with something that will drive 100ks of page impressions very quickly
  • ta da!
gooseberrybushes · 17/03/2011 16:21

I like Toby Young very much. He's very bright.

GabbyLoggon · 17/03/2011 16:23

I think Labours "squeezed middle" saying is a mistake.

Heard people on Newsnight saying they were poor on 40 grand a year.

There must be poor and poor.

GabbyLoggon · 17/03/2011 16:27

Goose...are we talking about the bloke who is the spokesman for free schools? He gets on tv a lot.

there could be other Toby Youngs...

elkiedee · 17/03/2011 16:30

Mid thirties, NO - older
university educeted - yes
upper middle class - by background, not by job
victorian house - possibly, but it's a 2 bedroom terrace, it's in North London but not in area which conforms to stereotype (the wrong side of Haringey)
drives a Fiat multipla - don't drive
weekly shop delivered by Ocado - No - Sainsburys, have never tried Ocado and don't intend to after chief exec signed that letter calling on govt to sack all public sector works etc.
"has a fondnessfor green and blacks chocolate" yes - but the point is
Skinny jeans - never wear jeans

I'm state school educated myself, I work full time, not SAHM, have never voted Lib Dem or Green, would never vote Lib Dem - when I've not voted Labour I've voted socialist Alliance or Respect

AnnieLobeseder · 17/03/2011 16:32

Ah, I love it so when someone reads a tiny bit of MN and thinks they have us pegged. How can anyone think that the over half a million members are all so similar and fit neatly into any kind of box?!?! Confused

predominantly SAHMs - nope, full-time WOHM
university-educated - well, yes
upper-middle-class - no
in her mid-30s - not any more Sad
has two children at the local primary - YES! I got one!
called Felix and Tallulah - ah. No. They're called Tarquin and Tristan Wink
lives in a Victorian house - I wish!
in North London - not for any amount of money
spends weekends in the country - I live there full-time!
drives a Fiat Multipla - good lord no, ugliest car ever!
gets her weekly shop delivered by Ocado - or Sainsburys
has a fondness for Green and Black?s any kind of chocolate
and knows someone who knows someone who once went out with Ed Miliband - why would I know anyone who did that?
skinny jeans - LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!

And I don't have a laptop, nor do I read the Gruniad. Or any newspaper for that matter.

Shall I get my coat?

Anyway, I say that MN indeed Mumsnet isn't representative of the 'squeezed middle', it's representative of the women of Britain.

Honeybee79 · 17/03/2011 16:36

And what is wrong with being a Guardian reading laptop wielding harpie exactly?

Bit of a none story, isn't it?

Maybe he should try some proper journalism next time.