to think IT REALLY DOESN'T BLOODY MATTER IF IT IS A DIFFERENT SODDING BALL!!!!!

[AtYourCervix]

IT'S A BALL.

IT DOESN'T BLOODY MATTER.

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It's more to do with it giving a presumed advantage to the home team as ball boys or supporters are more likely to fire it back to their own team if advantageous or hold on to it if it's the oppositions line-out.
So fairest rule is, if anyone bar the person looking to take the quick line out touches the ball after it goes out of play then you can't take a quick line-out.

That makes sense - thanks mayorquimby.

find me shit you can dig up about jonny boy

and yes he is god

Do you mean find shit about johnny boy specifically being a bad person so as to justify a footballer v rugby player argument?
cause if so that's a bit ridiculous. It's like me saying rugby players are twats look at Schalke Burger as oppossed to Edwin Van Der Sar. And then if you countered "well there's plenty of footballer twats also." me saying "find me shit about Edwin VDS".

I don't think J Wilkinson has done anything reprehensible that I know of. He seemed a gent the couple of times I've met him and is by all accounts a down to earth private lad who has remained unaffected by his celebrity and success.

I heart lunatic fringe

true, I just think rooney needs to wind his neck in
and it also matters to me whether 'sportsman' are wankers or not.

Think Rooney's a twat also. Needs to cop on big time.
Just as someone who loves both sports hate the attitude of some rugby supporters that somehow footballers are money hungry cheaters and rugby players are these philanthropic saints playing within the spirit of the game and would never dream of attempting to con the ref.
Rugby players earn as much as they can and the impending exodus of players to France for the $$ shows that they are just as monetarily driven as footballers,this borne out by the fact that the English RFU saw fit to introduce new rules about representing the country if you play abroad to try and stem the tide to protect their own financial interests and the domestic game.
As for cheating and conning the ref rugby players are just as bad. Rugby, due to it's nature, is the only sport where a ref will continually site the rules to a player during the game and even warn him that he is infringing and to stop it. In any other sport an infringment equates to punishment, where as in rugby you get a warning and if it is not then the player will look incredulous that he was not told that he couldn't break the rule at that time.
Punches are regularly thrown during games of rugby and scuffles break out off the ball that would result in a straight red in football, in rugby these are most often put down to aggression boiling over/boisterousness and often the game proceeds without a yellow.
The sport has a long and consistent history of failing to punish eye-gouging. That's a player intentionally trying to damage the eye area of another professional.
Let's not also forget blood-gate, that's a concerted attempt at cheating from top to bottom of a club rarely seen in any other sport.
there's a far worse track record in drug bans than football also.

I could equally do a similar list for football painting it in as bad a light.
As I say, I love both sports, I just find the lazy castigation of other sports (by either set of fans) ridiculous when both sports have so many internal problems that need sorting.

I must confess to enjoying the looks on the faces of the French players when they lost yesterday.....

And I can certainly see the attraction that Johnny Wilkinson has for some.....

At least when footballers feign injury they don't need help

davidtennantsgirl RICHIE GRAY??? you cannot be serious [shock}
he has to be the ugliest,most useless piece of string to ever set foot on a rugby pitch!!! He's horrible - and what's with the hair????
herbietea now don't be silly. johnny is mine and mine alone, run away now and leave us alone together sigh

There was a ball . That would have meant moving the level of my eyes up from thigh and butt level

Not a rugby (or any sport) fan. Thought this was going to be about a bunch of six year olds.

Herbieta - that is hilarious. JW is my god also - but I am having strange desires about Toby Flood now .

Apparently, though, that's not as strange as having desires about Ritchie Grey, ExitPursued! But I'm happy as this means less competition!