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To be slightly outraged that they don't include Scottish qualifications on the census form?

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hockeyforjockeys · 07/03/2011 18:45

OK I'm quite sad and love a good form to fill (especially if it has lots of lovely tick boxes), so I was quite excited to receive my census form today. But when I looked at the qualifications section there was no mention of Scottish qualifications (e.g. Standard Grades and Highers) in the list of possible options, when they explicity say UK qualifications at the top of the form. Even though I live in England I have Scottish qualifications, and find it enough of a bloody nightmare at the lack of recognition of them (particularly when I was applying for uni), but I would of thought a national body like the National Statistics Office might have an idea that things are a bit different up there? Is it a different form in Scotland, otherwise I can imagine a united chorus of 5 million of 'bloddy English'.

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BuzzLiteBeer · 07/03/2011 18:47

I would imagine it would be a different form for Scotland, otherwise that would be a glaring oversight! Is there a space for "other" even?

MrsPresley · 07/03/2011 18:49

Might be a different form?, I dont have mine yet.

Saltire · 07/03/2011 18:49

I don't know, I have Scottish qualifications, O grades and highers. . However I haven't received my forms yet so can't even look to see

sourdoughface · 07/03/2011 18:51

it says foreign though lol

Mists · 07/03/2011 18:59

I was about to throw mine away when I saw that I had to do it. Has nothing changed since Christ was born? Hmm Death and taxes. 'Course not.

Anyway, there is a blank box which says "this is deliberately blank".

Perhaps that's for Scottish stuff which English people don't and should never know about? Sort of "words on a form" which is invisible to most.

foreverondiet · 07/03/2011 18:59

That makes me sad too... I am also scot living in england.

Saltire · 07/03/2011 19:03

What would they do I wonder if all the Scots living in the UK wrote in big letters across the form - I have Scottish qualifications?
I might leave ours blank as DH and I both have o grades and highers

backwardpossom · 07/03/2011 19:06

Not got mine yet, so will let you know when I do if our forms have the Scottish qualifications on them.

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SardineQueen · 07/03/2011 19:14

Do they have GCSEs and O levels and A levels and HNDs and everything?

Or do they just talk about levels? On the forms we get at work they have (NVQ? can't remember) level 1-6 or something and you are supposed to "translate" the qualification across but no-one knows WTF it all means Grin

hockeyforjockeys · 07/03/2011 19:17

Oh yes, full range of English qualifications, including many I've never heard of. It does tell you to tick the equivalent if it's not listed, but I would think that a Scottish qualifictaion would be valid enough to include on teh actual list!

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IShallWearMidnight · 07/03/2011 19:19

I've just had a look online in case there were more options, but I'm guessing those of us with O/Standard grades/Highers need to tick the English equivalent as per the instructions. Very annoying though.

SardineQueen · 07/03/2011 19:21

That's appalling then jockeys.

I just looked at the census website and they have a english version and a welsh version Confused

IShallWearMidnight · 07/03/2011 19:23

Welsh one I think has a Q17 about speaking/reading Welsh, the English version has "this question is deliberately left blank" at Q17.

bluejeans · 07/03/2011 19:25

That's really bad! Can anyone remember if it was the same last time?

scottishmummy · 07/03/2011 19:42

havent had form yet

AMumInScotland · 07/03/2011 20:00

The Scottish one has proper qualifications on it, and the current English ones, but not O levels tough they do finish each section with "or equivalent"

www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/en/howto/questionshelp/q/i23.html

hockeyforjockeys · 07/03/2011 20:06

DP has just pointed out the word England on the front, so I assume there is a different Scottish one. Still bloody outrageous that they use the word UK when they mean England.

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hockeyforjockeys · 07/03/2011 20:07

And why does the Scottish one include English qualifications, but not vice versa?

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mmsmum · 07/03/2011 20:10

OP I think you are first in country to get a form lol

I'm in Scotland and haven't had mine yet but I'll be finding someone to phone and complain to if they don't have Scottish Qual.'s in Scotland!

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hockeyforjockeys · 07/03/2011 20:16

There are a couple of other threads about it so it seems they have started arriving, just not in Scotland. Must be that huge distance they need to cover to get there Wink

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DamselInDisguise · 07/03/2011 20:18

I was quite annoyed about this too. I'm amazed that uk bureaucrats never seem to learn that uk =/= England.