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AIBU?

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to not want to eat crap meat anymore?

93 replies

ijudge · 05/03/2011 14:12

DH seems to think eating any type of meat is better than not eating meat.

I'm fed up of buying shit meat, because that's all we can afford, knowing how the animals have suffered.

I know we are on a budget but it would be managable to eat good meat if we just ate meat no more than three times a week.

He can't seem to understand good quality meat would taste better and says veg wouldn't fill him up Hmm

He says that Tesco meat is farm assured, think he just made that up.

AIBU to think we shouldn't eat meat every night?

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LetThereBeRock · 05/03/2011 16:06

And who are these people who can't tell the difference between Quorn mince and beef mince? Do they lack tastebuds?
Quorn doesn't taste at all like meat,no matter what you smother it in.

worraliberty · 05/03/2011 16:14

Lol I've always said if you gave a veggie real meat instead of Quorn, they'd soon notice the difference Wink

ijudge · 05/03/2011 16:14

Never heard of panga Blush

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colditz · 05/03/2011 16:15

It tastes exactly like crap meat IMHO.

LetThereBeRock · 05/03/2011 16:20

Even crap meat doesn't taste that bad.

AnnyR · 05/03/2011 16:23

I agree with someone further up who was talking about cheaper cuts. We were very poor when I was a child, but we had lovely tasty meals made by my clever Mum who cooked stews etc with cheap cuts. Chicken thighs taste much better than cheap breast meat that has been injected with water. We loved things like liver, bacon and onions; breast of mutton, neck of lamb, beef stew etc. Or the leftovers from a Sunday roast. It's about learning how to cook in a clever way, rather than spending lots of money on steak etc.

Mind you, I can't do it as I don't cook. DH does it all!

ijudge · 05/03/2011 16:28

So nice cheaper cuts of meat are:

Chicken thighs
Beef brisket
Liver
Lamb neck fillets
Breast of mutton

I wouldn't know what to do with a breast of mutton!

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SardineQueen · 05/03/2011 16:37

Kidneys are cheap.

AnnyR · 05/03/2011 16:38

ijudge: neither would I - my Mum did know though! Maybe you need to consult some good cookery books to get some help and use a real butcher rather than the supermarket - they often give good advice.

As I said, I don't cook - am the world's worst!

Ephiny · 05/03/2011 17:00

I think Quorn mince is nicer than the cow-based version personally Smile. Agree they don't taste the same though.

Don't advise trying the Quorn 'ham' though, I have no idea how they make it that alarmingly bright pink colour, and the taste is really quite odd...

rinabean · 05/03/2011 17:10

I love quorn ham, but I haven't eaten the real stuff in so long my memory is obviously totally changed!

Quorn mince, though, I'm not making that up! Real life meat-eating manly men eat quorn mince + real mince without complaint! Of course the internet is full of lies but it seems an odd one to deliberately perpetuate. The OS board is full of stuff like this, and diluting bath foam for hand wash, decanting cheap ketchup into the heinz bottle and so on. They have fussy families and no-one notices!

It must be to do with the fact that if your brain expects mince and half of it really is mince it imagines the rest is, too. But if you used just quorn mince you'd probably get what I refer to as the cheap rice krispie phenomenon - when something looks like A and tastes like B, even if B is delicious in its own right, it ends up being disgusting.

Honeybee79 · 05/03/2011 17:17

Panga is great and so so cheap. I use if to make fish tagine as it holds its shape quite well when cooked. I find that my local fishmonger is great at suggesting alternatives to expensive/unethical choices of fish.

I do love meat though but we stick to cheap cuts from a local, organic butcher. Stews, slow cooking etc. Beef brisket hmmmm tastey.

JohannaM · 05/03/2011 17:22

Agree with the numerous comments about not needing to eat meat!

It is also possible to eat well without meat every day.

As for price - plenty of online organic/high welfare firms provide reasonably priced meat - especially if less meat is consumded per meal.

Heal Farm regularly has money saving offers, some of which come with free delivery. Buying in bulk and putting meat in the freezer allows meat to be eaten as, and when, without it costing the earth. They are currently selling minced beef, lamb, or pork for £10 for 2 kg of each. I don't call £2.50 per 500g for high welfare meat exactly expensive! If you order some chicken breasts (£39 for 4 kg - that's 8lb give or take) you can get it all delivered free!

woollyideas · 05/03/2011 18:04

I'm with the other people who say it's best to buy the cheaper cuts of meat from ethically sourced butchers. Instead of eating a cheap, Polish, intensively-reared leg of pork, I'd rather eat some free range pork belly, slow roasted like this: www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/pork-recipes/pork-belly-roast

I'd rather eat a bolognese sauce made with 100grams good quality mince than 250g of cheap mince or a curry made from a single free range chicken breast, bulked out with spinach and lentils, than one made with two or three cheaper bits of chicken...

Honeybee79 · 05/03/2011 18:06

Agree with Anny - it's about learning to cook in a clever way. It's a skill that most people don't cultivate these days.

howlonguntiltheweekend · 05/03/2011 18:09

Do you like chorizo? We try to eat a lot of chorizo and then buy more expensive chicken, beef, e.t.c... with what we safe on the chorizo.

For e.g. a chorizo sausage at £2.69 (i think) will last the two os usually four meals, sometimes 5. I do things like risotto, pasta bake, stuffed peppers, chorizo cooked in wine. Very nice!

albertcamus · 05/03/2011 18:21

my DH's new toy is a Wolf halogen cooker. It's amazing @ cooking & browning, no mess, very quick & washes itself up! Ref. chorizo, we throw this into it with carrots, parsnips, potatoes, herbs & garlic with olive oil ... yummy & well-cooked + not expensive :)

JemimaMop · 05/03/2011 18:25

YANBU.

We buy meat from this farm shop

The meat is lovely and not that expensive. If you look at the Meat Packs Special Offers they have packs eg:
1lb Welsh Black Beef Stewing Steak,
1lb Welsh Black Beef Mince,
1lb Saddleback Pork Sausages,
1lb Pembrokeshire Lamb Chops,
1lb Chicken Breast,
1lb Pork Loin Steaks
1/2 Pembrokeshire Lamb shoulder
for £25.

I can get 9 or 10 meals out of that pack, so if we have a couple of non meat nights that is 2 weeks worth of meat.

We buy about £100 worth of meat at a time and freeze it. That way the delivery charge (if you don't live close enough for free delivery) is worth paying.

albertcamus · 05/03/2011 18:35

honey agree ref. learning cookery skills - when I describe the content of GCSE 'Food Technology' to friends in France they are disgusted - what a travesty it is. I think it should be renamed 'Business Studies Food Product Design'. Kids do get the message about 5 a day and all that, but are not taught the necessary skills to run a kitchen economically, even though they would love to :(

twoboots · 05/03/2011 18:59

when i finally grow up and stop living like a student i plan to have a big chest freezer. i'm always impressed by the quality and value of the frozen bundles in farm shops.

yestheyareallmine · 05/03/2011 19:25

panga is pangasius or in tescos and asda river cobbler and in sains it is basa.

winnybella · 05/03/2011 19:33

Stews are great. I'm making one now- beef, onions, garlic, leeks, carrots, rosemary, thyme, allspice and lots of red wine. Serve with dumplings or mash. Yum.

Whoever commented on cheap Polish pork- I have to say that meat in Poland generally has more flavour than in the UK or France, ime and imo. Obviously, it's a very big generalisation Grin

RevoltingPeasant · 05/03/2011 19:43

Chorizo is brilliant.

If you have a slow-cooker, try: chorizo & chicken thigh stew with lentils and some paprika. Ummmmm.

squeakytoy · 05/03/2011 19:51

I love chorizo, we have it with so many things. That stew sounds good Peasant, I will try something like that.

I went out with a hungarian lad when I was in my teens, and his parents were both fantastic cooks, who taught me some amazing dishes, always with the cheapest cuts of meat. Loads of potatoes, veg, and lentils to bulk it up. Plenty of spices and onion to give it a kick. Delicious!

Liver and onions is really cheap, and if cooked properly tastes lovely. I always soak it in a bit of milk for an hour first (again like my mum always did) as this stops it from being tough and leathery when cooked. Saute it with some onion, serve with mash and greens.. Easy meal to serve 4 people that costs under £3 for all the ingredients. Full of nutrition.

Habbibu · 05/03/2011 19:52

Shin beef is a great cut - cheap and absolutely the best for stews. That said, we don't eat that much meat - I didn't eat any for years, and always had very high iron levels. I don't think I'd like to eat meat much more often that we do - feel much better on a largely veg-based diet with some meat and fish.