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to hate it when people talk about "indie" schools

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gobehindabushfgs · 16/02/2011 09:31

in an attempt to make it sound cool, edgy and alternative? it isn't. it's private education. it's a right-wing, ultimately selfish decision.

"indie" Hmm

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BettyDouglas · 16/02/2011 18:08

Well I consider myself left wing an I use private schools.

I don't think one compromises the other. I think if I was right-wing I'd want/expect lower taxes and for everyone to pull up their boots and help themselves.

Instead, I believe that those who can should and that a civilised society needs to support those less fortunate. I was a HRT as is DH. I don't think I should pay less because we don't use state schools and have health cover through DH's job. Just because we have been lucky does not mean I don't have responsibility to help/support/contribute to those who for whatever reason have not been so fortunate.

freshmint · 16/02/2011 18:09

hahahaha
anyone who doesn't follow your credo is politically illiterate?
silly

freshmint · 16/02/2011 18:09

hrt?

stiflersmom · 16/02/2011 18:10

champagne socialists

they should all be forcibly deported to Islington

freshmint · 16/02/2011 18:10

oh never mind, I get it. I was thinking hot flushes and the ref to DH confused me Grin

seeker · 16/02/2011 18:10

I don't actually think that you can be left wing and use private schools. I know many do - but I think that they stop being left wing when they start educating their children away from the majority of children.

freshmint · 16/02/2011 18:12

I must say I agree - difficult to claim to be left wing while educating your children privately
but not being left wing doesn't make you (a) a bad person or (b) politically illiterate

tricky to argue with someone who says "my way or the highway" though. well not tricky but pointless

BettyDouglas · 16/02/2011 18:13

Well Seeker I appreciate your POV, I just disagree with it. Fundamentally, I could never consider myself right-wing. I would say I'm probably left of centre if I'm honest.

I think if you took out my education choices everything would be left-wing so best fit, I think. Grin

freshmint · 16/02/2011 18:15

yay another wishy washy useless centrist

JoanofArgos · 16/02/2011 18:16

No, when I said politically illiterate that was in direct response to 'wishy washy liberals', which seems to be by its own admission to be a statement of not really holding any views at all.

BettyDouglas · 16/02/2011 18:17

But, when I was teaching, I taught in an innercity school. I gave it my all and never once did I consider those children to be lesser in any way to mine (other than mine being mine IYKWIM)

I often thought how priviledged my kids were but never that they were better by virtue of their parents income.

Though of course, they weren't just priviledges due to school but housing, garden, diet etc.

BettyDouglas · 16/02/2011 18:17

Oh I freely admit to being a wishy washy liberal bang in the centre. Grin
It's very British, I feel! Wink

freshmint · 16/02/2011 18:19

It IS difficult to spot someone being tongue in cheek when you suspect they are a facist, isn't it? I do sympathise Hmm

DontKnowWhat · 16/02/2011 18:19

I?m all for free choice but tbh if you sent your children to a private school ? you?ve bought their university place and their A-Level and GCSE results. Thanks for paying taxes but your privately-educated spawn has had many advantages over me ? this makes applying for medicine a pain in the arse when you?ve had to jump over hurdles of childhood poverty, being a young carer and shit teaching next to mollycoddled, braindead, spoonfed but surprisingly eloquent monkeys.

I can safely say that my mother has spent more time sectioned under the Mental Health Act than I've ever been out of my hometown. And we've never been able to "sacrifice our dream 4x4" for little Johnny's education since it took weeks to save up the money to get our boiler fixed. I've been forced to be educated by my nearest school and now have the catch a bus to a half-decent state college. Then again, I refused a scholarship from the local private school because it's crapper than the college I currently attend.

BettyDouglas · 16/02/2011 18:20

Though I don't seem to be able to spell privilege tonight. Good job I got out of teaching!

JoanofArgos · 16/02/2011 18:21

I have no idea what you mean, Freshmint, and I suspect you don't either.

elphabadefiesgravity · 16/02/2011 18:22

Joan - we sent dd to private school on an income of less than £40k.

We now have two children there and dh's income has gone up but ifyou only have one child it is perfectly possib;le if you so wish.

BettyDouglas · 16/02/2011 18:24

Don'tknowwhat, I'm not quite sure what your point it, TBH. I had to jump over hurdles of childhood poverty too.

You are making a very big leap from your local private school being rubbish to all privately educated children being thick, spoonfed monkeys as you put it. Hmm

freshmint · 16/02/2011 18:24
freshmint · 16/02/2011 18:25

So well done don'tknow. You could have gone state or private and you chose the better state.
WHAT are you complaining about, exactly? That your local private school wasn't good enough? That if it was, and you'd gone there, you would have been braindead yet eloquent?

You aren't making any sense.

freshmint · 16/02/2011 18:26

PS I'm sorry about your mum

ThePosieParker · 16/02/2011 18:34

Surely if you opt out of a poor state school, I live in one of the worst school areas in the country, then any other half decent state school is already over subscribed and so you feel the only option is private? That's certainly true here. You are either rich enough to afford to live in the nice catchment areas, £400k + for a three bed, or you send your kids to private or risk the atrocious state schools and by secondary many have police patrolling their playgrounds. Because so many of the nice kids get taken out to go to an abundance of private (huge number php) schools they definitely feel a gap in the state schools. Many are ghettoised and fail pupils badly.

ThePosieParker · 16/02/2011 18:36

REading mu post, you can see what happens if you're state educatedHmm poor poor grammar.

smallwhitecat · 16/02/2011 18:40

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