to ask if you would use donated breastmilk if it was available rather than formula?

[bubbleymummy]

Inspired by another thread.

I personally would rather use donated milk. If you wouldn't - why not?

Inertia Yes, I had a similar experience whilst I was being vetted to be a bm donor. I was pleased to see how thorough it was actually.

I wouldn't think of getting donor milk for my healthy, older baby now rather than formula if I needed it. As you say, supplies of donor milk are limited and I'd rather it went to those babies to whom it might a real life/death difference IYSWIM.

But in principle, I would use donor milk for my babies and I would happily give it on a casual basis if a close friend requested it for their baby (have done this).

You know why I am bringing up third world countries because I have explained why.

In our country, bf kids and adults are not healthier then ff ones.

And your evidence?

MrsSparkle, you have to compare like with like.

Bf babies in developing countries are healthier than ff babies.
Bf babies in developed countries are healthier than ff babies.
Bf babies in developed countries are healthier than bf babies in developing countries (this is where healthcare/sanitation/nutrition comes in)
Ff babies in developed countries are healthier than ff babies in developing countries (again due to the other factors)

You are just mixing and matching all over the place and putting words into people's mouths.

And I would rather the govenment used money to promote teaching kids about healthy eating and healthy lifestyle rather then trying to push mothers into bf and making them feel like failures if they don't .

Mrs sparkle
"In our country, bf kids and adults are not healthier then ff ones."
Where on earth have you got that idea from?

"In a rich country-bf children will be healthier"-where is the proper medical research that shows this?What total utter bollocks!!!!!!

So my children that were ff and weaned at 6 months on to a balanced totally organic diet,crammed full of just about every fruit,veg you can name,the exact portions recommended with absolutely zero shite,msg,etc are less healthier than a Mars Bar munching breast fed child dining regularly at Mcdonalds????

What total utter rubbish,Jesus I think all that bf really has adled your brain.

My evidence is the population! You just have to talk to people to realise what nonsense it all is in the grand scheme of things.

Who is trying to push a mother into bf? You really seem to have a bee in your bonnet about bf!

Mila, we are talking about average health across the whole population.

No one can say what outcome one particular child will have, but on average yes, the bf child is likely to be healthier.

Mrs Sparkle, so you have no evidence.

No mrssparkle it is not. All the studies show that there is a difference. See if you can find a study that says otherwise. If there was one you can bet your life the formula companies would be plastering it everywhere so it should be pretty easy to find.

Milamae - again you are mixing comparisons. You would need to compare organic fed ff children to organic fed bf children or mars bar eating ff children to mars bar eating bf children.

Bollocks!!!

You can't say bf children are healthier than ff children. Lifestyle and genes dictate your health not whether you were bf in the first 6 months of life.

Exactly. Like for like. So a ff child in a 3rd world country who had a better diet and environment then a bf child would be healthier.

In our country, a ff child with a better diet and environment would be healthier then a bf baby with crap diet and environment.

Sorry MilaMae, bf children does give them many health advantages. There are huge amounts of research that have found this.

But, giving your children a healthy, balanced diet will certainly help them to stay healthy.

BM is one aspect of lifestyle.

And WHY do you always talk about 6 months?

Mila- read my post please. You are mixing up your comparisons.

MrsSparkle - I would'nt bother wasting your time arguing with militant bfers the lovely people on here. My Quick Poll of MNers on whether THEY were bf or ff rather proves the point that it does not really matter at the end of the day which I hope has helped somebody who has been feeling crap, because they could'nt bf, after reading the tosh on here.

Bf may give you advantages,it guarantees nothing,it isn't the elixir of life. Many other things give you health advantages,far bigger advantages in fact.

I keep mentioning 6 months because that is the period recommended in this country and the time frame many bf mums have as a goal and stick to-got a problem with that?

No mrs sparkle! You are changing too many variables! You have to have controls to see what effect things have. So you would have to have the lifestyle/healthcare/nutrition as a control to see what effect bf or ff would have.

I'm so amazed at the total lack of understanding of scientific research methods on this forum.

I'm not militant about breastfeeding FFFS, I'm militant about countering illogical bullshit.

I'm not mixing up anything thanks.

MrsSparkle - to make a fair comparison, you change only one factor (the one you are comparing) but keep all the other factors exactly the same.

My evidence is as good as yours. All your evidence doesn't take into account lifestyle differences so it makes it pretty crap really.

Fffs - no one is trying to make ffers feel crap. People are only stating facts about bf in defense of some of the comments made by you/milamae and mrs sparkle which are misleading and quite frankly wrong. It is very telling that not one of you has been able to produce a single study to support your argument.