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AIBU?

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Original poster

in thinking calling vagina tearing, "tearing" is ridiculous, when really vaginally ripping would seem more accurate

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carriedababi · 15/02/2011 11:11

ripping or being pulled apart would probably seem a more realistic term in some cases

not saying ripping will ever catch on, i sure it won't

but the term tearing, make it sound like a little paper cut.

i had 4th degree "tears" with dd
repair op and all that
and i find alot of peoplesay oh i had a bit of tearing too, when perhaps they don't realise what 4th degreee "tear" is

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Cleofartra · 15/02/2011 11:47

Tearing is a 'soft tissue' problem. S'not about the size or shape of our pelvis.

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 15/02/2011 11:47

Oh yes, the head size thing. We're doubly-damned.

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carriedababi · 15/02/2011 11:49

well, somehow, i managed to order 1kilo of deli ham Shock

when the shopping delivery came yesterday, i unpacked it after the driver left, and thought wtf
12 pounds worth of ham
plus i bought 2 packs of prepacked and didn't relise we still had 1 pack of prepacked left
so we have 1 kilo of deli hams and 3 packs of prepacked

i phoned waitrose to send the driver round to return it, they wouldn;t return it, but refunded 6 quid
better than a kick in the arse i guess

so i now have 1.5 kilos of ham!

anyone for hamGrin

what a twat!

but mumsnetters have told me to freeze it, so after dishing up todays ham and making sarnies for tomoorow i'm freezing alot of it

i don't know how i did that!

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JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 15/02/2011 11:50

But surely they'd be more soft tissue to give if we had bigger pelvises (and therefore fanjos), so we'd tear less?

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carriedababi · 15/02/2011 12:01

some people will tear regardless of what they do

i was full term, went into a spontanious labour, was on all fours, in birth pool, no drugs, calm and relaxed.
did all the pernial massage before ect
in fact that aspect couldn't have gone better really

yet still sustained serious damage

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pommedeterre · 15/02/2011 12:02

Those home birth stats are surely slightly distorted by the fact that women in difficult birth situations are more likely to tear, and, more likely to be in hospital.

I'm very glad I was cut (forceps) after some of the 'tearing' stories my friends have told me.

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carriedababi · 15/02/2011 12:02

yes i'll be looking next time at chessington!

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superv1xen · 15/02/2011 12:05

2 elcs's here Blush

Ariesgirl · 15/02/2011 12:07

Ah. I guess it was because the pelvis shifted in order to let us walk on two legs?

What about gibbons Grin

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carriedababi · 15/02/2011 12:08

lol at what about gibbonsGrin

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cornsilk · 15/02/2011 12:10

oh dear carrie! Extra wine or chocolate would have been excusable.

EdgarAleNPie · 15/02/2011 12:11

its called a tear. skin tearing dosn't sound nice does it? thought not.

i had a 2nd degree tear - didn't feel a thing. didn't feel the stitches either. too much else going on.

Foreverondiet · 15/02/2011 12:11

YABU - thats why they call it 4th degree.
I had a 1st degree "tear" with DS2 - although a nick would be a better word.

With DD it was a 2nd degree tear and I think tear was the right word in those circumstances.

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carriedababi · 15/02/2011 12:15

lol yeah or cream cakes!!!, i mean 1.5 kilo for us 3!

gotta go get dd now.

back later

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LDNmummy · 15/02/2011 12:23

There is a 4th degree????!!! I thought it could only get as bad as 3? And I find the term 'tearing' bad enough, 'ripping' is frightening. My big sis was 10 punds at birth, I was 11 and a bit and my younger sister was 12 and very overdue. My mum said that after my younger sister she thought everything was going to fall out of her when she went to pee (sorry for TMI). It scares me that big babies run in my family and I might have to endure it, but who knows, I may be worried for nothing.

LDNmummy · 15/02/2011 12:26

Oh and we all have big heads in my family and DP's family, oh dear, i need a Brew

Ariesgirl · 15/02/2011 12:34

Gibbons can walk of two legs Carrie. Didncha know? So can gorillas sometimes. So what about them? Do they get ripped vaginas? Any primatologists here?

RMCW · 15/02/2011 12:40

In a book I read it was called

"perineal rupture"

I think thats pretty accurate!

LadyOfTheFlowers · 15/02/2011 12:42

Personally, tearing and ripping both make me clench up and cross my legs.

RMCW · 15/02/2011 12:43

Had a 2nd degree tear with ds1. He shot out as if from a cannon! No real issues, healed well.

Had a 3rd degree tear with ds2. He had a 38cm head. Took much longer to sew me back up again, lost a lot of blood, was anaemic, stiches didnt heal well and I now have granulation at the suture site.

Btw, gave birth to both babies in upright positions.

I have friends who had 11lb babies delivered on their back and not even a graze...just the way it is I'm afriad.

RMCW · 15/02/2011 12:45

ariesgirl Gorillas can walk upright, just as we can crawl about on all fours, but its not natural.

Its all about the tilt of the pelvis...in animals their pelvis's are much bigger/roomier...just look at a pig/cow and see how far apart their pelvic bones are!!!!

happygilmore · 15/02/2011 12:47

this is bringing back memories of the first poo after having DD Shock

TheSmallPrint · 15/02/2011 12:53

I am crossing my legs here too and had a 3rd degree tear. Not enough patience from my midwife I think, too keen to get DS out and me off the ward for the next poor sod to be wheeled in . That and he was over 10lb probably.

Interesting [[http://www.rcog.org.uk/womens-health/clinical-guidance/third-or-fourth-degree-tear-during-childbirth article]

TheSmallPrint · 15/02/2011 12:53

oops try again

TheSmallPrint · 15/02/2011 12:54

I was also induced and that appears to be a factor.