I loathe David Cameron

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I really do. I could bitch about him the whole day and never tire.
I actually hate him.

this would be too complicated and delicate for an arse-wipe such as yourself to understand.
So I shall chose to not confuse you.

I don't hate Cameron, he is what he is - a Tory through and through. I also understand, (whilst not necessarily in agreement with the way in which it has been done) that service will have to suffer.

Clegg on the other hand... what did happen to his parties core values exactly (did he even know what they were.).

Services - sorry

pascoe28 claig dobiegirl are you three expressions of one split personality?

Pan - more abuse from a left-winger...who'da thought it??!

I think pascoe has just illustrated with her "benefit scrounger" perfectly the difference between personal attack (read proper, focussed hatred against her peers) and general hatred of a politician's actions. Good night, I rest my case.

yeah yeah typical lefties always giving a shit about other people

well, you do set yourself up for it.

Don't get me wrong, Blair was a tory in sheeps clothing. New labour? Don't make me laugh. I've voted liberal democrat for many years (Charlie Kennedy is our man) and when the coalition got in I thought it would curb some of the tory excesses. Did it shit. Someone name be a decent, honourable politician, whos's not out for all they can get. They don't exist.

Pascoe - Typical lefties - always wanting someone else to pick up the tab.

Actually, I do think society should be about everyone picking up the tab, including me. I think taking societal responsibility is better than individual responsibility (although the two are not mutually exclusive and individual responsibility is obviously necessary also). However, a society where everyone is looking after each other is always going to be better than one where everyone looks after themselves. Higher taxes, better public services. Scrap private schools and low taxes for corporations.

Errrrrgh 'how can you hate someone you haven't met'. Walk a few steps in our shoes.

This coalition has cost my DD £30 a week which is her only source of income for a year that's £1,500 approx.

Also increased tuition fees from £3,000 to approx £9,000. So that is another £6,000 x 5 for a professional degree. So that amounts to £31,500 that would have been provided by the state one year ago.

I work and pay taxes but don't have a man providing for us for various reasons.

Add on the other stuff he is doing, really look at it from the lower paid/vulnerable people's point of view.

What's to hate. Everything.

Pascoe, I really do hope that you / the main wage earner in your family doesn't ever get made redundant. You will then learn the real meaning of having to try and live within your means. Until then, stay up in your ivory tower please.

usualsuspect - please don't mistake an eagerness to spend other people's money on your own pet causes with compassion.

bigbeagleeyes checkk out Joe Higgins MEP

Pan - how exactly? By expressing an opposing opinion??

Pet causes? you are a card pascoe28 ..you entertain me no end on MN

omg so do I. And even more so in all his commenting on how the Egyptian people deserve democracy as if we have a democracy here?
Did he ger a majority? err no

Don't think I will bother reading the thread seeing as Pascoe has joined.

It's pretty clear this Conservative govt is keen to restructure our society fairly fundamentally. It isn't about marginal changes in services provided, or how we finance them. It's an attempt at root and branch to tip us into a privately determined way of thinking that Thatcher would have sought.

of course Clegg is a stooge, and could never have been anything but.

legaleagle - so who should now be in No.10 , if not the leader of the party that won the most seats???

'Someone name a decent, honourable politician, whos's not out for all they can get'

I'm not sure about the snooker player Joe Higgins, but do check out Michael Gove.

georgeorwell, the wise Italians have a word for the left, a word that stretches back into antiquity, to the beginnings of Western Civilization. The word is la "sinistra". I think you will agree that Italians know of what they speak.

Pan - I agree...and hope you are right.

italains arent wise theyre machiavellian which aint the same

pascoe - how? Just by being you, I guess. A sort of mollusc with fingers to type.