to want to take youngsters who wear FAR too much make up aside and wash their faces forcibly with a scratchy flannel

[GetOrfMoiLand]

I mean honestly.

Girl in tesco today had what can only be described as inch thich orange foundation, eyebrows coloured in with (looked like) a felt tip pen and 800 layers of mascara.

Do these girls not look in the mirror? She looked like Cher from the X factor - utterly hideous.

. The thing is I think many of us did this at that age too. hrist,I am so glad there are no photographs to show the evidence. They'll grow out of it soon enough.

One of the ladies at DDs nursery was like that - she was in her 30s though - bright bright orange tide mark along her jawline and platinum blond hair and huge black eyelashes

OK for a night out (perhaps) but for mucking in with nursery kids every day? - just why?

FFS GetOrf I was only buying a pint of milk. I didn't expect to be judged in this way

But YANBU...it looks gross!

We had the excuse that there weren't that many photos and there weren't series like snog marry avoid! These girls will see themselves all over FB etc. so they must surely know what they look like!

Do you have an unnatural obsession with flannels?

Or shares in a flannel-making company?

(dare you to mention flannels on one more thread today for the hat trick)

I totally agree with you and, funnily enough, I commented on this to DP when we were in Cheltenham a couple of weeks ago.

As well as the orange look there also seems to be a trend for what I can only describe as a really, dirty, grubby look.

I can't quite put my finger on what they do but they just end up looking as if they have dirty faces

My sister came downstairs when she was 15(back in 1960) with black eye liner, heavy pancake makeup etc.
When she refused to go and tone it down, my dad scrubbed her face with the scrubbing brush-a big wooden one.
I never wore much makeup at home

A girl served me in a shop the other day and I had to try really hard not to stare - she had thick clumpy mascara-d to hell fake eyelashes, so much kohl pencil in her eyes she blinked black, highly oily glossy lips and great long fake fingernails.

I expect she was naturally very pretty but she looked so hard and fake.

Trillian stop talking such flannel

These girls must have magic mirrors. I mean there was a great big foundation tidemark. I just wanted to scrape my fingers down it to see how thick it was.

When I was about 15 I plucked all my eyebrows out and penciled them in, but it didn't look like this - great big carved black shapes these girls brows were. It was like staring at a Picasso.

"Hard and fake", good description.

I blame the adverts.

They think that if they apply hundreds of coats of whatever crappy Maybelling mascara they use they will look like the girl in those ads of 'lashes enhanced in post production' fame.

There's a girl at my university that always has on really thick, patchy foundation, lots of blusher and horrible clumpy mascara which is all made worse by the fact that she would obviously be very pretty without it.

You should have seen the orange woman at school today!! Jeez, did she not know the school was unfriendly middle class academic parents only school?? Tight short skirt, orange everywhere, katie price style shirt and hair, and power platform stilettos. It was funny.

YANBU

Teenage girls tend to be astonishingly beautiful but ruin it by caking on an inch of make-up. I can't decide if it is because they have low self-esteem or it is some sort of weird fashion.

i'ts not new though is it?? IT might be a different style of caking on make-up - but I know there are photos of my cousin in the early 80's plastered in 80's style make-up, and even some lurking aorund somewhere of my mum plastered in 1960's cake.

YANBU

This is exactly why I find 'Snog, Marry, Avoid' such compulsive viewing. The girls all look so clean, pretty and fresh once their slap has been removed.

you should have sent her to snog marry avoid,

these crazy eyebrows seem to be a new thing , can you say drag queen?

I once knew a girl who never washed her make up off. She would just apply new stuff every day. You had to see her clumpy blue mascara weighing down her eyelashes to believe it!

I really wanted to pin her down and give her a good wash.

And some brown/black mascara.

I know it doesn't always look very nice but I think girls should be allowed to experiment with make up and find their own 'look'.

When I was 16/17 I wore really pale foundation, black eye make up and pale lips. I thought I looked like Siouxsie Sioux, I expect older women who saw me in the supermarket thought differently though.

Yanbu

And many them could do with putting on a nice cardigan.

YANBU

I know that i grew up, when i started looking at the 'youngsters' and wanted to wash them and put them in a nice warm jumper.

Also knew i had grown up when i used the word 'youngsters'

Agree with quenelle (memories of bright blue eyeshadow etc) but it does look horrid!

At least when I was experimenting the make-up on tv wasn't 6 inches thick but there wasn't this obsession with reality TV where people do their own slap either. I think girls are just emulating what they see, sadly.

One day they'll realise how horrible and fake it looks.

YANBU. And most adult women as well.

Oh and YABU to want to use a scratchy flannel. It won't dent it - you need wire wool.