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to think that surely not EVERYONE hates Maggie?

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LadyOfTheManor · 28/01/2011 12:27

Seriously, unless you're a miner or from a mining family, or Welsh... ok well even if you are, surely not EVERYONE hates Maggie T?

I'm a tad young, I was born in her "reign", but I did my degree in Politics and although I didn't really live under her (it was Major until I was 11) I couldn't see what she did that was SO terrible-let alone the sheer hostility when her name is mentioned here (in Wales!).

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Normantebbit · 28/01/2011 17:05

DP is Glaswegian and practically shakes with fury when talking about her. Up here vast swathes of the population who once worked in the shipyards or in manufacturing are unemployed; entire families for generations now.

But you also forget how radical left wing politics was then - the Libyan flag flew above Greenwich town hall at one point.

That hers greatest achievement was probably Tony Blair. Sigh.

( and I don't even have a politics degree Lady)

CaveMum · 28/01/2011 17:05

TSC, I accept that, and to a certain extent I am playing Devil's Advocate, but why are we not blaming New Labour for not fixing those problems - they had 13 years for goodness sake.

ivanhoe · 28/01/2011 17:05

///////I'm not sure someone who presses the Holocaust into the argument in the manner you have is in a position to criticise anyone's "moral decency", Ivanhoe. Are you going to apologise for that particualr piece of gobshitery?////////

Under Thatcher, pensioners had to wait 7 days in cold weather, before being allowed to claim benefit.

Apologise ?, no way.

smallwhitecat · 28/01/2011 17:06

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Eleison · 28/01/2011 17:08

You couldn't have written a more blackly funny post if you tried, ivanhoe.

The murder of six million Jews and millions of Poles, gay, people, gypsies paralleled with seven-day wait for extra heating benefits???

I don't care to defend Thatcher, but really your Hitler analogy is so offensive that you ought to apologise.

Alouiseg · 28/01/2011 17:08

It's all about perspective isn't it, dh and I and lots of our friends rally benefitted from the de reg of the city. I actually think that she, more than anyone managed to smash the class divides and glass ceilings that Labour seem so keen to maintain.

I would rather have Lady T in charge now, rather than Cameron who doesn't get aspiration and thinks he has a duty to be benevolent to us commoners.

ilovemyhens · 28/01/2011 17:10

I live in the northeast and she destroyed entire communities up here Angry Those places have still not recovered from her onslaught. She treated the working class with contempt. She's the one that is responsible for vast swathes of the population being dependant upon benefits Angry. She also introduced the unhealthy cafeteria system into secondary schools - chips all round.....every sodding day.

I absolutely hate her and shall rejoice wildly when she eventually kicks the bucket. People who can't see what she did wrong didn't live in the real world during the 80s or hadn't been born yet.

KarmaDevil · 28/01/2011 17:11

Well I hate Maggie, I lived under her reign as a child, in the North. Nuff said!

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smallwhitecat · 28/01/2011 17:12

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ambarth · 28/01/2011 17:13

I hate her too. She will rot in hell when she dies.

Normantebbit · 28/01/2011 17:13

I wouldn't say millions but I think we take homelessness for granted now. Back then so many you g people were made homeless because they were unable to claim housing benefit at I think, 16? Thousands were forced to sleep on the streets in our cities while looking for work. There was no infrastructure to cope with this.

Frizzbonce · 28/01/2011 17:14

Margaret Thatcher effectively destroyed manufacturing industry in this country and yes she did decimate whole communities. Thanks to her as well, the requisite to provide a nourishing midday meal for children was removed, and contracted to profit making companies. Hey Presto! A generation of children reared on turkey twizzlers. She ended free milk in schools and increased charges to go to museums and other cultural activies (she was a cultural moron - only ever went to see Anyone for Denis while she was in power).

Most of all she had no compassion and no imagination. She really believed that if you kicked away someone's wheelchair they would get up and walk by themselves. And as ifancyashandy says she was responsible for the 'me me me' ideology and the free market, the consequences of which we are still paying for big time.

I'll be glad when she's dead. Except I'm sure there will be a load of toadying obituaries and she'll probably get a state funeral.

BeenBeta · 28/01/2011 17:15

I just wish we had Margaret Thatcher in power today. Cameron has been a huge disappointment to me.

As others have pointhed out, it was the miners that went on strike and made themselves poor. I lived through that time and the strike was purely political and instigated by the NUM.

Thatcher knew she had to build up a stock of coal at the power stations before she took them on. Yes we got coal from South Africa too. The NUM miners were brought down by their own leadership.

nagynolonger · 28/01/2011 17:15

I can see why you feel as you do Alouiseq.

Most people have no chance of aiming for that glass ceiling, and they paid the price with high interest rates/unemployment.

harvalp · 28/01/2011 17:15

"Thousands were forced to sleep on the streets in our cities while looking for work. There was no infrastructure to cope with this."

What a load of total cobblers.

Eleison · 28/01/2011 17:16

I don't really like the posts about long, lingering death either. I do vehemently hate what she did politically, and her resignation was one of the high-points of my news-watching life, but find it hard to feel such viciousness towards her.

Rannaldini · 28/01/2011 17:16

everyone does hate her

UnquietDad · 28/01/2011 17:17

No Thatcher thread ever ends well.

The bile, venom and spite is really quite shocking.

Ever seen that old episode of Doctor Who with Tom Baker where he refuses to touch two wires together and destroy the Daleks for good, because it would make him "No better than them"? Think about it..

Normantebbit · 28/01/2011 17:18

Harvalp - I saw it as a young person. There was a cardboard city in London in an underpass from Waterloo station to the festival hall. It doesn't exist now. Same in Birmingham.

It's not cobblers, it's a fact. I saw it.

BuzzLightBeer · 28/01/2011 17:19

No better than her? no matter what I say, I'm pretty sure I'm far better than her in any imaginable measurement.

I'm not a milk snatcher for a start!

UnquietDad · 28/01/2011 17:22

I know I will probably have to sign off the Internet for a week or so after she dies, because some of the comments on Facebook and on here and elsewhere from the Compassionate Left (splutter) are going to make me want to put a brick through the computer screen. And I'm not even especially a fan of the Iron Lady.

TheSecondComing · 28/01/2011 17:23

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UnquietDad · 28/01/2011 17:23

God, you people :(

Alouiseg · 28/01/2011 17:25

Bitter and twisted doesn't come close

Normantebbit · 28/01/2011 17:26

In fact homelessness increased from 57,000 in 1979 to 127,000 in 1987.

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