to think that surely not EVERYONE hates Maggie?

[LadyOfTheManor]

Seriously, unless you're a miner or from a mining family, or Welsh... ok well even if you are, surely not EVERYONE hates Maggie T?

I'm a tad young, I was born in her "reign", but I did my degree in Politics and although I didn't really live under her (it was Major until I was 11) I couldn't see what she did that was SO terrible-let alone the sheer hostility when her name is mentioned here (in Wales!).

I loath her and everything she stood for. Danced in the streets when she resigns, will do so again when she passes.

Mrs Thatcher is the best Prime Minister this country has had since the war. She took over a backward economy that had needed an IMF bailout, uncontrollable inflation and was being crippled by unions and strikes. She modernised the economy, broke the grip of the unions and got inflation under control.

smallwhitecat :o

I do hate her and I ALSO admire her. I hate what she did - far from putting the Grwat back in Briutain, she left the economy imbecilically overdependent on the serve sector and the finance sector, both of which are now failing - Germany will rocket out of recession because they still have industry, but she was soooo determined to break Trades Unions that she crushed industry in order to nuke them. That's NOT to say industry was in good shape in 1979...

I admire her, however, because she was a conviction politician. She did what she said she'd do. And she actually liked the middle classes. Nobody has since - in fact both colaition parties and Labour hate them.

You're right smallwhitecat,

But am finding the illogicalities of the Thatcher haters' hilarious (didn't massively like her myself btw but in my view all politicians do both good and bad things and most do not set out deliberately to destroy the country as suggested here.

Well, I remember the lovely 1/3 pint milk bottles I used to get at infant school at break time.

Until....one day the teacher told us that it was stopped to save the government money.

Thank you Maggie.

I really relied on that milk as we weren't allowed to drink the nasty sterra milk Mom bought!We were quite poor and no frills diet so I really missed it.

Maggie Thatcher,milk snatcher.

I don't remember inflation being low in the Thatcher years!

Um, not quite@pascoe. You obviously don't have a very deep understanding of the Troubles if that is your analysis.

You know if I thought for one minute that she had shed even a single tear for the pain and suffering that she caused others maybe I wouldn't feel that the world will be a better place without her.

Do I like the fact I feel like that, no not much. Do I wish her a painful death, no. Do I understand that her family will be upset and others that knew her or admired her will be saddened by her loss, of course.

I this makes me a "spiteful cunt" then so be it judge away.

I have to admire her but I didn't like her and I think that she did the country a lot of harm. I don't like any society which is 'survival of the fittest' and 'I'm alright Jack'.

it was lower than 25% nagy

melikalikimaka have you read the thread? she was the only one on the cabinet to oppose the end of school milk. Not that it would have continued now.

A few months ago when she was rushed to hospital my husband put the champagne on to chill (for just three hours of course!!!)any way the old bag pulled through,but the same day it was announced Frank Sidebottom died.As my DH said how can there be a GOD Frank dies and Thatcher lives...Before you all kick off "what about her poor family" What about the millions of families she destroyed. Save us a spot on the dancefloor.

I hate her. I am old enough to remember what it was like when she was in power. She ruined this country. She made people beleive that if they didnt own thier own house by the age of 19 they were losers.

She used the excuse of 'get up and go' to hide her 'survivial of the richest' manifesto.

She made being poor a crime ditto being ill or vunerable.

I still have the front page of the Evening Standard from when she left No 10. I should really get it framed.

actually i raly pisses me off that poliicians pretend to give a toss now. they don't of course. Look at Brown - pressing he flesh then walkign away dissing them. Blair probably did he same but was too smart to get caught. I think its naive to imaginethat politicians really care about the electorate on a personal level - beyond what they believe is politically expedient.

//////I shall be flamed but I care not.... I have a bottle of champagned in the fridge that shall be drunk on the day her death is announced.

I feel no remorse for this - she decimated entire communities, created the 'me, me, me' culture that is still so deplorable today and created an ideology that is repellant to anyone who has an ounce of commpassion or moral integrity. We are NOT all born equal and we do not all have the same chances.

She is truely the only person alive (apart from Nick Griffin) who seriously rises my bile.

A pox on her.

Oh, that feels SO much better.///////

Likewise mate. And following that, ide like to round up her supporters among the British
and fire them all from a cannot pointed out into the atlantic, and watch them all fight each other to survive.

Because this is exactly what that woman brought to Briain, the dog eat dog mentality.

Having said that, Labour shot itself in the foot by taking a decidedly ideology-based turn in leadership during the late 70s (foot and Kinnock) - harkening back to the glory days of the Bolshevik Revolution and the Jarrow March was supposed to achieve exactly what in Britain at the end of the 20th century?

They simply did not present a credible alternative to Thatcherism, a fact understood by New Labour as it rose - and as the electorate showed, the old far left Labour that was all it had available to vote for in the late 70s was simply not palatable, whereas New Labour was a much more attractive option.

A pity Labour lost so much time and squandered so much effort in ineffective ideological fulmination, posturing and leadership upheaval in the wings when effective opposition could have done far more for the poor and disadvantaged.

Not sure she will be able to be buried....too many people queuing up to dance on her grave.

The evil old witch.

I think most people on here weren't alive in the 1970s when the dead went unburied

Nagylonger I was at work in 1987, that's how old I am!

The day Mrs T cut the top rate of tax from 60% to 40% was the day that Desert Orchid won the Gold Cup at Cheltenham. It was an amazing day.

...and guess what tax receipts went up!

Her "poor family" oh yeah, right.

Her own daughter doesnt like her and her son is a tinpot dictator. I think they will keep their grief in bounds, dont you?

I was alive in the seventies. You mean the 'Winter of Discontent'? At least that was time-limited industrial action and not the currently planned public-serivces apocalypse. And I'm quite happy with unions taking action. Hope the public servces unuions do now.