To Think that Katie Hopkins should not be on Question Time.

[TheCrackFox]

For the simple reason that I can't stand her?

Didn't she leave the Apprentice when Alan Sugar reminded her that she had 2 pre school children that her parents were looking after, and that moving to London would actually be quite difficult if she actually had to take them into consideration?

She's stupid and irrelevant. I'm glad I was too tired to stay up for QT!

Sorry, too many actually's. I'm clearly a woman, so stupid, and a mother, so therefore illiterate! Give me a medal!

KH obviously thinks she is brighter than she actually is. I was shocked by her comments.
What was she doing there anyway?

Is it so wrong of me to find myself disagreeing with everyone that dislikes her?

She is very annoying - in terms of her manner - I agree. But what she was actually saying was common sense.

It's refreshing to come across people that don't see themselves as deserving special treatment. I sometimes think spending too much time on here makes one forget how normal people live.

Pascoe - you really do spout some crap

Which particular part was common sense? Please do elaborate.

As an aside - "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." Einstein.

Apt.

Bit late to this as I am watching it on iPlayer just now. Briefly - what a knob. KH that is.

What's the relevance of our sense of humour or ability to banter to the Sky issue - the comments about the assistant referee surely weren't intended to be funny, they were said in a nasty sneering tone. And you can't banter with someone who is not in the same room and has no idea you're talking about them.

She has incredible self belief over a serious lack of anything most people would call 'talent'. She is on Question Time though. I wonder if she has any friends?

is she really 32??????

I thought she was older then me and I'm 42.

32??? Crikey, all that campaigning on behalf of equality has certainly aged her.

Isn't this all just to further her own (limited) media career? She knows that by spouting off guff she'll be picked up by some paper ie the Daily Mail to write an insightful article about women wanting it all (yawnnnnn), and will use the cheque to pay the rent and shoe the kids until the next time she's wheeled out to stir the shit a bit.

The fact that we're even talking about her is proof that she does have a shelf life.

It's all about justifying herself to the menz

She doesn't want to upset the menz

Sad cow

I found myself agreeing with Will Self, Edwina Curry, Chuka Umunna, Chris Huhne and never once with Katie Hopkins. Given that I am a naturally right leaning Tory (perhaps UKIP) voting bloke that is a measure of how much I disagreed with her.

The Katie Hopkins: Women can't 'handle' equality segment is available to watch again here.

She's 35, according to Wikipedia. Looks correct from wrangling Ancestry.co (don't have a subscription to check the exact year, but can "trap" info).

I stopped watching QT regularly when they decided it was a good idea to have a token celebrity on the programme most weeks. It really made me cringe watching the likes of Davina McCall and Alex James (that imbecile from Blur who seemed to be everywhere a couple of years ago) failing to keep up with the debate or articulate any thought-out opinions. The panel should be comprised of politicians, journalists, those working for NGOs, thinktanks, etc. who have a professional interest in the topics of debate, and have the knowledge to respond to public concerns (which are provided in the form of questions from the audience, not by having some zeleb taking up space on the panel). Why do the few remaining serious programmes have to be dumbed down?

Hasn't Hopkins been on QT before? I seem to remember her making some offensive comments about university education - apparently only the rich deserve to have it. I actually doubt whether she believes the shit that she spouts - it's just something she chooses to build a "career" out of.

is she that awful blonde tory bitch?

I worked with a woman like this once (worse, I recruited her). She was hopeless in a predominantly female office because she relied so heavily on flirting.

Every idea or simple task was presented with eyelid fluttering or personal flattery, and there'd be this puzzled silence from her female audience waiting for the point. She was proud of being a ball-buster but threw her toys when her simpering didn't turn people into her willing slaves.

Was very thought-provoking, actually. Fitted well with anecdotes about high-flying women who've been successful in all-male environments sometimes being worse for female advancement than the men. Well, you wouldn't want competition if your USP was being the only gay in the village woman in the boardroom, would you?

Maybe it's mean to point out that KH's children were cared for by her parents presumably for free, while she shagged a married man sorry pursuedamediacareer grafted her way to the top.

In fact she pulled out of The Apprentice because her parents were unwilling to relocate to Brentwood to look after her kids.

So nursery, childminder etc is good enough for our kids but not hers, it seems.

Her take on womens' sense of entitlement was spot on - that was what I agreed with.

I reckon half the audience agreed with her and, had she not sussed that to be seen to do so might not be a popular move, Edwina Currie did too.

Quite what Chuka Umunna and the other spineless blokes on the panel thought they were doing, cravenly seeking to be seen as PC and out-feminising the feminists, is beyond me.

Her attitude reminds me of research into Queen Bee syndrome in which women who reach senior positions in a largely sexist environment often will not mentor nor help female colleagues further down the ladder. They found women who had achieved in a more supportive environment were often happier to support and mentor other female colleagues.

Although quite what KH has 'achieved' I'd beyond me. And what business help she brings to SMEs is unclear - maybe she gave her friend Annabel some advice on her cup cake business.

yes, she is a good example of the Queen Bee Syndrome - a woman who has been individually successful in male-dominated environments and is then more likely to oppose the women?s movement. I believe the argument is that women who have risen to the managerial/decent level in a male-dominated organisation will oppose changes because they are motivated to maintain the organizational culture in which they have
fared so well.

Which is why the men on here/elsewhere are loving her.

Sad cow

Sorry I can't be bothered to read this entire thread about her because to my mind it would be giving her attention that she doesn't deserve but I just wanted to add that she has to be the most irritating woman in the country if not the entire world, just looking at her makes my blood boil and then she goes and opens her mouth

Who chose her to be on? She is rubbish.

As LadyBlahBlah says it's all about Katie being popular with the menz. When you get a woman describing that kind of really nasty bullying as 'a bit of fun' I want to jam my fist down her throat.

A bit of fun Katie? This is the man who called women 'It' and referred to 'smashing' them and suggested Charlotte Jackson tuck a microphone down his trousers (wouldn't have been difficult - there's probably loads of room down there) Grey and Keys were very powerful and loads of women have come forward to say there is a 'climate of fear' at Sky.

Here's a bit of fun Katie. You were once described as 'looking a bit like 'Princess Diana as seen through the back of a spoon'.

I agree about her wanting to please. she actually comes across as rather needy: she comes across not as someone whose primary motivation is success but as someone who mainly wants male approval. I seem to remember, in the past, thinking that Edwina was a bit like that too, a bit flirty etc. but at least she complements it with some brains and substance - even if it's substance I usually disagree with. You know you could have a decent argument with Edwina. Trying to have an informed debate with KH would be like debating with a 10 year old

Not quite fair LadyBlaBlah - BeenBeta said he preferred Will Self, Chuka Umunna, Chris Huhne & Edwina to her.

Pascoe: "I reckon half the audience agreed with her and, had she not sussed that to be seen to do so might not be a popular move, Edwina Currie did too."

So how do you explain absolutely nobody clapping when she spoke? The hush was deathly. And when she barefacedly clamoured for someone, anyone, to support her "has anyone here got a sense of humour?" there was again a surplus of tumbleweed activity. And Edwina (who I can't stand usually) looked as if she'd be quite happy to take it outside.

Has it occurred to you that maybe the men on the panel who disagreed with her might actually want to see equality between men and women furthered?

Elephants - yes probably not quite fair - there are some men who want equality too. (Not, as Pascoe say, just because of PC'ness but because they genuinely see the benefits of equality for everyone)

However, the predominant voice from the commentary and discussion is one of anti-feminism and the other voice is rarely heard.