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To wonder how you get that amazing career

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Mrswhiskerson · 24/01/2011 23:17

There are a lot of people on here earning fifty k plus and I really admire them, a high flying career is what I have always wanted. i'M currently working as a clerical officer banking money filling in invoices on oracle etc and I am wondering what the next step is I want to have worked my
way into a really good well paidjob by the time ds is five , he is six months now. I would mostly like advice on what qualifications are best to take and what are the well paid jobs like? Is it having loads of money but no time ?

OP posts:
scottishmummy · 26/01/2011 20:15

get a mentor
get a plan
network, linked in is good
maintain cpd/cv
do self lead study
professional qualification that leads to some kind of registration and regulatory body qualification
pick a career you will love doing

hoovercraft · 26/01/2011 20:17

is that to me?

I do all that and am high up on my profession. I am well paid in my line of work but only at 45K.

hoovercraft · 26/01/2011 20:19

my recommendation would be to choose a commercial, law or business type of field.

scottishmummy · 26/01/2011 20:19

do keep up,global post to all

hoovercraft · 26/01/2011 20:20

lol
sorry, its been a long day

scottishmummy · 26/01/2011 20:22

lots good advice here though.for me it was getting an informal mentor,he really encouraged me when i was dithery and unsure

sexistandygray · 26/01/2011 23:43

I am not Nicola Horlick! Grin

OP, I would agree with the advice to look for something that gives you a professional qualification or choose something in a business type field. My degree isn't directly related to my career but I did one that I thought gave me the greatest flexibility.

In terms of not seeing your children etc, that's not true in my case. I waited till I was in a senior position and then had children. I don't do the crazy hours anymore. I work part time and flex my working day to ensure I have always have breakfast with the children and always come home to do bed and bathtime. Not as rosy as it sounds as I always have to check and respond to emails after dinner and sometimes do late conference calls (US) or early ones (Far East). OP, you already have DS so one of your sacrafices might be how much sleep that you can survive on to be able to do a full time job, advance your career and be a full time mum. :(

Also agree about having supportive partner. DH is fabulous and there is no way I would have got to where I go to without him and he does his fair share at home. OP, you and your partner will definitely need to be a team.

Finally, you have had some great financial advice from others already. I am totally conservative with money and don't do debt. Sadly, I have seen the ultimate consequences of what happens if you overstretch and get into serious debt so we have never borrowed more than 3 times income and we are currently mortgage free.

kodokan · 27/01/2011 08:42

DH is a high earner at a senior job level - this has been a very interesting thread and has really made me think about why he has got where he is.

Like others have said:

  • good at his subject matter, genuinely enjoys it and reads around it in his spare time, works hard, travels at a moment's notice, prepared to do long hours and take conference calls at unholy hours (global company), etc etc.

More specifically:

  • he has two degrees, which has on at least one occasion has tipped the balance in recruitment selection. Faced with several equally impressive candidates, his MEng seems to be a HR/manager shortcut for 'heck, I need to pick 1 of these 3 people and be able to justify why THIS one... quick, find a differentiator... oooh, there's one!' It's made him an easy 'sell' for managers to explain why they hired him and not others.

This is luck - at the time, the extra study year was more 'shrug, can't think of much else to do, why not?'; we had no idea it would be so valuable decades later.

  • he is happy to take decisions. We've long since concluded that that's really what they're paying him for: because he can quickly assimilate information from a wide range of sources AND THEN MAKE A DECISION, and has the people skills and strength of character to drive it through without naffing everyone off (trying not to use the cringy phrase 'gets people on board' but that's what it is). Many, many people are uncomfortable with 'pinning colours to the mast' as I believe someone put it above, and it's a skill that has a monetary value.
  • we have moved. A lot. My son was on his 4th primary school by the age of 8; either luckily or perhaps because of this he is a great embracer of exciting change too Smile. DH manages factories in the UK where he can't get someone to take a fabulous promotion an hour or two down the road, 'because the wife won't leave her mother, like', whereas we now live in a different country.

This is perhaps not so relevant for London-based jobs where there is more scope to job jump without physically moving.

  • you need a 'wife'. I don't work, as our life would be otherwise unmanageable (we've moved a lot, hubby travels a lot, we don't live near our families for any help with childcare for school hols. Oh, and here the kids come home for lunch from school for 2-3 hours!). DH is terrific at his job because that's all he does. He still spends a lot of time with the kids, more so now, because as mentioned above it's easier to flex hours/ telecommute/ delegate when you're quite senior, but it's all fun time: he doesn't have to clutter up his head worrying about whether their PE kit is washed, is the homework done, do their shoes still fit them, must book that dentist check-up, etc.

He comes home to a moderately clean house (I'm not the best housekeeper by a long way), all the bills are paid, the fridge is full of food, the car has been serviced, those slightly tatty cushions have been replaced and so on. When his work says 'there's a problem, we need you out in the US for a couple of weeks, from tomorrow', he can go effortlessly, without needing to re-arrange childcare, clear out fridge stuff that will go mouldy, or even cancel and re-book next week's dentist check-up.

I know this is all terribly 1950s, but it really has made a huge difference to his ability to do his job well. And we're savers rather than spenders; me not working means we only need one car (I have plenty of time to shop by bike, with an old kiddie trailer), we don't live in an enormous house (I'd only have to clean more), I cook everything from scratch, etc.

Superfly · 27/01/2011 10:16

Think about the type of work you want to do and the type of company you would feel happiest working for.
From leaving school at age 16 with 3 O'levels to my name I farted about with various jobs - mainly because they paid enough to pay my rent and bills and I had enough left over to have a few good nights out a week. I was in advertising sales up until the birth of my first DS 15 years ago.

I then needed to work part time - and started to work for a company I would never have given a second thought to before baby. The reason I applied was that the part time rate of pay was far better than any I had seen, the hours were good but also the promotion route and vocational training oppotunities were pretty impressive. Fast forward 15 years, I am now in a job I am passionate about, I have qualifications that will definitely further my career, my working hours are brilliant and my pay is great.

The main thing is to enjoy what you you do - this will make you want to work hard - then you can reap the benefits. Good luck.

Xenia · 29/01/2011 07:36

Yes, women (and men) who are enthused about their work tend to do better. Those my age (40s) who have been doing it for 20 years who carry on usually are those who get a lot of satisfaction from it.

I do think some people can enjoy most things and some nothing though so there may be a personality element to it too.

Those who leave school without qualifications do find it a bit harder and have a slower start which is probably why most of us would prefer our chidlren to do reasonably well at school although that is by no means the only thing which determines their outcomes.

scottishmummy · 30/01/2011 21:59

enjoying what you do really helps makes it less like an intrusion and will be the impetus to push self.

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