to think that Sky Sports should sack Andy Gray and Richard Keys for this blatant sexism....

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I know a lot of you don't like football but there was a female assistant referee officiating the game between Wolves and Liverpool yesterday. 2 of Sky Sports' main announcers/commentators were caught off camera (but with the mics still turned on, unbeknownst to them) making these remarks...

i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/01_04/sky.mp3

As a man, I can honestly say she did a good job and a lot of us on The Football Ramble forum believe Keys and Gray were out of order. What is the female perspective?

Here is a short transcript.

?Somebody better get down there and explain offside to her,? said Keys.

?Can you believe that? A female linesman. Women don?t know the offside rule,? said Gray.

Keys replied ?Course they don?t. I can guarantee you there will be a big one today. Kenny (Dalglish) will go potty. This isn?t the first time, is it? Didn?t we have one before?? And then he added ?The game?s gone mad. Did you hear charming [West Ham vice-chairwoman] Karren Brady this morning complaining about sexism? Do me a favour, love.?

What distresses me is that this assistant ref will now be blamed in some way by the sexist twats who support these two presenters. Some of the comments on the DM website are implying she should be more thick-skinned, like it was her who was complaining.

Could there be more to the whole episode than meets the eyes? Has he been set up for reasons other than the apparent?

The Daily Mail article today mentions

"Gray is currently involved in a high-profile case against the News Of The World involving allegations of hacking into his voicemail. The newspaper is owned by News International whose parent company holds a 39 per cent share in Sky and is involved in a controversial bid to buy-out all the shares of the TV company."

meets the eye

So they forced him to make sexist comments against his will?

of course not. They just released them.

Then there's no more to it than meets the eye. They made sexists comments.

I have read that Andy Gray is suing News of The World for phone tapping allegations

maybe he made a few enemies

do you think they release the sexist comments of all of their staff?

Frankie Boyle makes some outageous comments. Is he hired to do more of the same?

oh didn't see claig's post

I read that the lineswoman has pulled out of her game mid-week. Which is very sad, though I've seen comments saying she should get loads of abuse now so I don't blame her.

Hope she comes back when it all settles down.

I am in the unprecedented position of being thrilled by the Sky corporation.

DH and I have been wrangling over this since Saturday. His POV - pretty much what AG and RK said - is peculiar. He is vehemently anti- racist, yet thinks it's all very comedic to deride Sian Massey. We have a daughter of our own: surely, when she comes up against twaddle like this, she should KNOW it's bollocks because she will have always been shown gender equality by her parents.

Then we got on to the household jobs ... and it got messy ...

OP - I agree with you from the point of view that this is unacceptable. But can you honestly say you are suprised? This is a channel that, despite (going out on a limb) a vast majority of it's viewers are men - most of the presenters are women... who are generally blond, young, with low cut tops...

All that will happen to these two cretins is a slap on the wrist for 'being caught' which is all this amounts to.

This kind of behaviour/ comments are accepted as 'things lads say' as long as they are kept out of the way of delicate female ears. The fact that they omitted to make sure this happened will of course be what they interpret as their error. Not what they said.

LadyTremaine, they have sacked Andy Gray. It turned out to be much more than a slap on the wrist,

OOh, I am behind on my media goss!!

googling now...

else has the lovely Charlotte had to put up with?

ooh that didn't work!

try again

Poor charlotte. I am pleased this has been highlighted as I have had to put up with this kind of shit often and have reacted in the same way as Charlotte did.

Personally I think that SKy have created that culture themselves by enforcing the 'beauty qualification' on it's female employees and not male. It's no wonder Gray et al think the women they work with are mere pretty faces.

Didn't GRay put his mic down his trousers and ask a female presenter if she wanted to tuck it in?

Yes, that is Pam's video link.

It happened in December and has just surfaced on youtube.

Who released the original comments and audio to the media and who posted the latest video onto youtube of the incident that happened in December?

Are Sky looking for the people who did this?

sorry, Pan's video link

Aha.

What he said wasn't acceptable but I think it has been blown out of context.
Just seen the news and the two 'top' stories were:
1)Sky presenter is sacked for sexist remarks
2)Four children killed in house fire..

I agree JimmyChooChoo.

Sacked to be replaced with someone "younger and prettier" like Jamie Rednapp perhaps???

Complete over-reaction.

How many of us makes remarks every day that we might, on relfection later come to regret?

How many posts on here get withdrawn at the posters' request, for example?