to be proud of working at one of the few schools

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that doesn't have a uniform;

here

I always hated school uniform and nothing has changed my opinion.

SuchProspects.
Your prize is the sweet satisfaction of flogging a point to death until the person you were arguing with can't be arsed anymore knowing you were right

I'm not interested, you can keep it.

I'll take the prize of not rolling over when you try to minimize and discount my experience in a patronizing manner just because it didn't happen to support your narrow view.

You have made me SuchProspects.
Thank you.

SuchProspects.. I completely agree with everything you have said

My ds had one ragged sweatshirt left at the end of year eleven ...he looked like a bloody scarecrow ...no way was I forking out another £15 for a new one when I had to buy him normal clothes as well ...yet there were kids there that had new uniforms all the time

This was in an inner city comp

YABU - Can't see that there is anything to be proud of myself.

I currently teach at a college, where there is no uniform and teachers are all on first named terms. Before that, I taught in a school with sixth form, where even the sixth formers wore uniform and called me miss.

Although this is anecdotal evidence, but I can't say that uniform or otherwise changes much. I think it reflects the culture of the school - the sixth form was much stricter in its culture, but I would say that the uniform reflects that rather than creates it.

And finally, when I taught at school I still had the same issues as I have now at college - at school, most students abided by the rules, but a few liked to push it. Now, I'm at college, all we have is a decency policy, and again most abide by the rules but there's still a few that like to push it and wear overtly sexual / inappropriate clothing. Same conversations, just slightly different context.

And no, teaching at a non uniformed college is not something I am particularly proud of, or feel any particular emotion towards full stop really. Quite an odd concept really.

I can see absolutely no reason for sixth formers to wear school uniforms

I showed my DD 13 the picture in the link and asked if she would like to go to a school where children dressed like that everyday,she said no way , thinks she prefers her school uniform to a "label" uniform.

Did anyone else just love their uniform at school? I wasn't particularly bullied or very popular. We had enough money and I was bought ok clothes. I just really really liked it. Including the tie!

my uniform was a crappy red 'sweatshirt' with black trousers and a white polo neck - the sort of thing primary school children wear now.

Not ideal for porky 14 year olds with 36DD chests!

Blazer and tie would have been appreciated.

I didn't like my middle school uniform as it was green but the secondary one was really nice in dark blue.

My boys dont mind wearing school uniforms but my youngest does like to push the rules with large knots in his tie and his shirt hanging out when possible.

I had no uniform at my secondary school for the first two years. It was then brought in under protest, I suspect mainly so local shopkeepers could identify pupils (it was quite a rough school!) but was only grey trousers/skirt, white shirt, and blue jumper.

I never had to wear a blazer or a tie, which I am/was v grateful for :)

I don't think the uniform, such as it was, improved the standard of the school- and to be honest we probably looked less scruffy before the uniform was introduced.

Why, thank-you Lamorna .

Yes, in addition to a mother highly insensitivie/bloody-minded to the importance of fitting in, we also had very little money. I remember just about being able to cobble something together which wasn't quite the worst in the class for non-uniform day and still the shame and humiliation of it stays with me.

It got better when I was 13 and worked part-time, so could buy a few bits of my own. Much better, in fact.

Although we're currently not poor (though live in a poorer part of town, so my dc would be more towards the 'haves' rather than the 'have nots'), I'm surprising myself with being pleased about a uniform at primary (easier to dress/undress self than 'ordinary clothes' and no need for morning angst about what to wear). I would positively endorse it at secondary; yes, we all know that it's not a complete leveller, but IMHE and O, it's a hell of a lot better than a free for all.

Sorry, Lamorna! I only read your post that said you agreed with me, and the excitement went straight to my head, then I noticed that you'd made subsequent pertinent points.

I believe the expression is that we're singing from the same - probably hand-knitted, on offer and large enough to grow in to - song sheet.

I think we are Rosebud-I had completely forgotten that everything had to be big enough to 'grow into'!

I know that all those who are so keen on 'free expression' would have wanted the floor to swallow them up if they were having to wear my mother's 'free expression'!!!

The boy in the foreground of that photo is secure that he has clothes that others will envy and he would love a uniform if his mother wanted to send him in 'the special offer' that he would 'grow into' or grandma's knitting!

LOL.

When I was in my late teens, I tried on one of the skirts that my mother had kindly bought me from the fogey bit of Littlewoods when I started secondary school.

It was STILL too big.

The horror, the horror,