To think serving babies cold milk is 'orrible?

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My friend is due to drop any day now and is adamant she will only the baby its milk either straight out the fridge or room temp. Am I the only one to (be very snobby) and think horrid! Poor little mewing newborn getting this cold rubbery thing shoved in its gob! Why cant she just warm it a little?

I cant help it, I think giving a baby cold milk because you 'dont want to spoil it' is lazy and shit!

I heard somewhere that microwaving can destroy some of the nutrients in the milk which is why it's a no-no. I think fridge cold is lazy tbh, it only takes 2 mins with a bottle warmer, or in a jug of boiling water.

And those who have mentioned convenience when you're out, that's what I thought cartons were for?

Thanks for that, GoldFrakkincenseAndMyrrh.

That is the same thing I am used to seeing though, so guidelines haven't really changed. I was perplexed at the storage aspect though..are you no longer advised to keep the bottles in the fridge door compartment?

Deciduous the best place to store is on the middle shelf as that's the coldest part apparently. Although my vegetables always seem to freeze in the veggie drawer so it obviously isn't always the case!

Mine too sevendwarves!

Oh that clarifies it thanks :) I guess this is why a lot of the bottle on offer now are the 'stubby' kind! I wouldn't be able to fit the standard bottle on my fridge shelf.

The thinking is that the back of the fridge is coolest and at the most constant temp, which makes sense because if you put bottles in the door they'll be exposed to greater changes in temperature every time you open the fridge.

You get ice/condensation at the back of the fridge, not in the door, and you want the milk kelt as cold and constant as possible.

Milk straight from the fridage seems a bit harsh for a newborn.

I bf both mine, but they both had the odd carton of formula from about 6 weeks old (I was CRAP at expressing!). I used to warm DDs up in a jug of hot water (pfb), but DS had his at room/carton temperature.

But then DS also used to have cold jars of food/pots of puree as well when out and about so I am clearly just mean!

New borns potentially have problems maintaining their body temperatures so I would never give fridge cold milk to a small baby, always I would warm it by standing it in a bowl of hot water for a while so really I think YANBU. For an older baby it's fine from the fridge though.

DD refused point blank to take a warmed bottle when I stopped BF her at 6mo. She wouldn't even drink it at room temperature. Which is quite odd as BM is body temp. And she'd only take it straight from the fridge. .

DS1 liked his at room temp, not warm, not cold.

DS2 would only drink milk that had been warmed, and even now at 7yo is still the same.

Well, I guess I didn't do it when DS was newborn as he has it straight from me for 6 weeks at every feed but I did give him expressed milk straight from the fridge once and found that he liked it just the same. That ended heating it up for me (well whoever was looking after him whilst I was at work/out as he had it staright from me at body temp usually when I was there).

A few myths on this thread.

You can still safely pre-make feeds, if you read the whole 7 page Department of Health and Food Standards Agency guideline it tells you how. It does say it is safer to make them fresh each time, but that is stating the obvious and it recognises that this is not always possible.

They are not supposed to be stored in the fridge door. They should be made with freshly boiled water that has been left to cool in the kettle for around 10 minutes. They should be rapidly cooled (bowl of ice water) then stored in the back of the fridge. The fridge should be no warmer than 5 degrees.

Microwaving does not kill nutrients unless you are letting it literally boil and boil. Same with the BPA thing.

I find it very judgey those who have an opinion on her deciding to bottle feed without even trying to breastfeed - you do not know her reasons for doing this. She might have a valid medical reason as to why she cannot attempt breastfeeding like medication, she may have had a breast reduction, she might have HIV or any other number of valid reasons

Or she might just not want to breastfeed..that in itself is a perfectly valid reason, IMO.

YABU - DD did not like 'warmed' milk. She did not have 'ice-cold' milk but it was never warmed.

Didn't have to worry about problems with BPA either.

I have weird children. They were both BF so used to body temp milk. When I went back to work, they would only take their expressed BM straight from the fridge, whilst still happily BF at home. Go figure.

Not warming milk because it 'might spoil the child' is awful, though.

My DDs have either had breast milk (not chilled prior to serving) or formula served at room temperature. We don't have a microwave, I've never chilled my breasts and fairly early on with DD1 it just happened that a room temperature bottle wasn't warmed first and she drank it quite happily. DD1 hated milk straight from the fridge when she eventually progressed to cows' milk. DD2 was much better at breastfeeding but when she changed to bottles I never heated those either - they were always room temperature.

So yes, YABU because what matters is that a baby's needs are met, not necessarily what temperature milk is served at.

Drinking cold drinks means your body has to raise the temperature of the drink before it can utilise it/digest it/deal with it.

So giving milk/formula out of the fridge to a baby makes the baby work really hard to raise the temp of the drink, before digesting it. Probably why warm, or at least room temperature drinks are better for babies - easier to digest & absorb.

Why would anyone want to deliberately make feeding hard for a new born?

My dd hated warm milk. She just used to gag and drool it right back out.
Cold milk however she'd happily drink.

Its possibly a bit unreasonable that she has already decided that her child will be drinking cold milk only since some babies dont like cold milk.

But giving cold milk to babies is not a bad thing