to think friends DD is a lying little tell tale and deliberately wanted to get DS into trouble!

[superv1xen]

had my friends and their DD round this afternoon for lunch and so the kids could play etc.

friends DD and my DS are both 4. they play nicely generally but she is a bit princessy and whiny and cries easily, IMO, for attention, as, if she so much as makes one whinge slightly unhappy sound her mum snaps to attention, "ooooh dear whats the matter darling" kind of thing.

well they were playing in DS's room and after a while she came downstairs whinging about something and kind of, pretend crying. and when asked whats the matter by her mum, she said "DS has hit me" but i could tell by her face she was making it up, and if he HAD have hit her, she would have been hysterical as thats how she is. you could just tell how she was telling the story she was making it up as she went along. And if you all knew DS, you would know he is not the type to "hit" people, he is a placid, gentle, loving little boy, and if anyone is the hitting, bullying type, its her. in fact not only have i seen her bully DS, i have seen her aim sly kicks and pushes at my youngest (19 months) when she thinks no one is looking

so i called DS down and asked him what happened, and he said he hadn't hit her, but it was blatantly obvious my friends didnt believe him, they believed their precious DD, so i felt obliged to tell him off to kind of keep the peace and send him back to his room for time out :( and i am so angry at myself for doing that. esp as brat friends dd carried on crowing about what a "naughty boy" DS was etc for about half an hour afterwards.

i love my friend but i really disliked her DD today and their attitude towards DS :(

Both you and the other parent should not have sent them upstairs to play.

You don't have to watch them every moment, but try to keep them on the same floor as you.

Don't tell me that there aren't inherently horrible children about, coupled with parents that are uninterested and/or blinkered to any discretions from their little 'darlings'.

I know exactly where the Supervixen is coming from. It's easy to make that mistake because you want to be seen to be actively parenting. Perhaps she was caught on the hop? So easy to do.

I can't believe the judgemental attitudes of posters here just because the OP is having a rant? Get a grip, the child isn't here to read the comments.

Supervixen... you'll know for next time. Maybe for this time, have a word with your son and tell him that parents sometimes make a mistake too and that you know he's a good boy and you're proud of him.

What a brat, why do you have her in your home?

Here here LyingWitch!

(Ace name by the way)

Re not liking certain children, ever read 'We need to talk about Kevin'?

Why Oldmumsy?

(not read it but it's on my list!)

YABU you should get them downstairs so if they fight you can record it on your mobile and put it on YouTube.

LOL bupcakes :o

interesting responses BTW. i know its not nice of me to dislike this girl :( but i can't help it. as i have seen from other posters, i am not the only one to ever dislike a kid. and tbh i remember growing up, i know i was a right little madam, spoilt, cheeky and precocious and tbh not the nicest little girl in the world and thinking back i can remember certain adults, friends of my parents and i don't think they liked me, but i dont blame them :o i think they like me now i have grown up!

and her mums my best mate so i don't want to cut her out and stop seeing her. and as i said in my OP, they do play nicely together most of the time but every so often this kind of thing happens. and she CAN be a nice kid WHEN she wants to be. i agree we should avoid them playing together out of our view though because then this type of incident is less likely to occur.

Super - I think its actually pretty normal to not like some children but the key is not to show it - which you don't.

Sometimes some children just do not play well together for whatever reasons and bring out the worst in each other.

Anyway you could see your friend without dcs for a while?

And whens the wedding

MarniesMummy, you have to read it, it's the creepiest book and you will understand the relevance when you do.

The reason i dislike my friends little girl so much is because she is calculated. She is five and has so far - removed my little girls scooter from a playpark with her friend and laughed in an OTT manner at my DD when she was upset when we coldnt find it. Gets in DDs face whenever she is upset about something, constant annoying, the other day sat in DDs seat, dd had meltdown (my dd was wrong to have meltdown over this and i didnt see that my friends DD had jumped in dds seat as soon as she got up and refused to move - when she did finally move she got loads of praise after i had admonished my DD, i could see her smirking at the other kids because my DD in floods of tears), then kept trying to take DDs little card thing off of her when my dd was sat on my lap still sobbing, i had to get quite cross with friends dd before she left my dd the fuck alone. This was not the first incident, and im not the first mother to notice this about this particular child. her mum is really very lovely and a good friend but enough is enough and i am pulling back from the friendship because of this as it is becoming a constant thing. And no, i do not like this child one little bit and its not a very nice feeling to dislike a 5 year old girl but she is quite simply, a nasty little cow. I would never ever show this, but i feel it and dont really care who knows it.

I havent explained it very well but i have seen her do this lots of times, not just to my DD. If a child is upset she will get right in their face, laugh at them, or do the very thing that is upsetting them. She needs a bloody good talking to she does but her mother is the sort that it coudlnt possibly be her little darling. I am probably guilty of being too far the other way and am perfectly able to see my own DDs faults, but for me what happened last week was the final straw and im cooling the friendship with the mother off. End of, sorry, im hijacking thread but is an open wound

Brightlights, I think you and your friends who feel the same need to drop this child and her mother like a steaming turd.

The child sounds a brat and mommy dearest seems useless at parenting

Runaway, Its awkward because the girls are all friends at school, very close friends to be honest. The mum is lovely, and apart from this horrible spiteful streak this girl has, she gets on well with DD. The problem actually is that there is three of them and they are so competitive, the other mums encourage this and i hate it. So i think its me who is going to take myself out of the equation to be honest.

Totally agree with LyingWitch. Some children are not very likeable, OK at 4 you can't exactly say it's their fault, and yes this sort of thing is normal, but that's still not going to make you like a particular child if they behave like that.

I know a girl like this (now 7 and getting worse!) And I have done this exact thing - told DS off when I KNEW I shouldn't, because she was complaining about what he'd done to her and I didn't want to look like I didn't care. The galling thing is she deliberately does all this stuff to him, hitting, pushing, tripping up etc., plus a dozen other deliberately naughty things, looking at you slyly to see if you're watching - but then screams and cries wolf if anyone so much as touches her. It is infuriating.

Plus OP you did say you felt bad about your DS - you don't deserve a roasting. Just apologise to him and explain you handled it badly.

Frosty, i am not identifiable by this website so i dont give a shit what i say, if you have your pictures and pictures of your kids on here, thats your lookout not mine. If i was horrible TO the child that would be awful, but i don't like her, i think she is a little shit, but i don't treat her any differently to any of the other kids who i know. I am not slagging her off to other parents who know her so whats the problem? Isnt this the place where we come to vent our spleen BECAUSE it is anonymous and theres no harm done. Anyone who says they have never disliked a child, imvho is not being entirely truthful, children are little people, somes you likes, somes you dont its that simple.

Brightights you have described my situation perfectly. The mum is my best friend and for the most part the DC's (her 2 and my DS) play well together. I am also one who can and will be honest about my DS 'faults', her dc's are tired, hungery, don't understand what they're saying etc etc. .

It has got better since I've begun speaking out more, a few arguments, well actually no a few times shes gone off on one but I refuse to argue or justify my actions.

Just the other day she kept saying about her youngest 5.8 having a temper tantrum s she couldn't have a toy in the supermarket, and how annoyed she was at her DH for going down the ilse she usually avoids. she actually called her dc's 'spoiled brats'.

It gave me the oppotunity to just to say how I would deal with it without being 'you should do this'.

super. I wouldn't give up on your friend or her DD. I have been there and am working towards, and getting there with making things better/easier.

I could tell you a few incidents which would make you all go

Good for you for saying something mumbar - my fault is that i dont have the balls to tell my friend the hometruths she needs to hear about her demon child little princess. My other friend did say something to her because something happened at school to cause the other mum to say to her DD to keep away. I then had the other mum on the phone to me saying "why are all these parents saying xy and z about my little precious". My friend is very precious about her DD for reasons we are aware of, and during the whole conversation i was thining tell her tell her tell her, but i bottled it. THAT would be the honest and fair thing to do, but i am too lilly livered to step up to the plate!

Stayfrosty is referring to the lovely pictures Superv1xen has so sweetly provided.

Which, since they have, indeed, been proferred as a nexus between RL and mn, I may suggest contain indications of the context into which her opinions may be re-situated.

Since they have been thoughtfully provided by the OP, it may be said that they not only provide the possibility of RL identification of the child in question, but also the possibility of taking your own position on how seriously to take the OP's opinions as to this girl's character. Bless.

er, righto!

Its not been easy bright. I did handle a situation wrong one day and she really got very angry at me. I hate seeing her Dds running rings around her, calling her names, hitting her and saying they wish she died. One day her DD was 'on one', she does not let up and you'd have to see it to believe it. She was blowing in DS face and he was asking her nicely to stop and turned away from her but she kept doing it. (I was in lounge with her dd and my DS, friends was in hallway, where you cannot see lounge with her other dd). My DS looked at me for help and I said 'sometimes if people won't stop its ok to do it back so they know how it feels'. I didn't think what she was doing was nasty just he did not like it.

DS did nothing, but her DD 'flipped' went running screaming he's going do this, he's sssssssoooooooooooo horrible, I wasn't spitting I was just doing this' (thing is she bought up spitting no-one else which makes me think she was being intentionally nasty) DS at this point went and up did it back at her (before I could stop him, as incident was over). She went madder and my friend said what he did was really awful and really close to her face and scared her. I said it was wrong for him to do it after she had left him alone, and maybe me telling him to do it back was wrong but her reaction to thinking he'll do it back said it all despite the fact she continued doing it when he asked her not to. It ended there, her DD still having hysterics (not unusual) but she later sent me the most awful text about how I always pick on her dd, its obvious I don't like her etc etc. I said I wouldn't argue by text, she knows its not true and to look hard at what actually happened, and why her dd might think I don't like her. I got an apology 2 days later and things are better now. But it is the whole not seeing what your dc's are like.

blimey you are going to have to take a lot of posters with a pinch of salt then, cos even if they aint said it, they have tought it at some point about someone's child. Its human nature, if someone upsets your child your thoughts towards it are goign to be less than charitable. Its the whole lioness thing