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should mumsnet help ban this film

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richrichrich · 08/01/2011 13:58

Hi all mumsnets

Just listened to Radio 4 debate re Eastender sstory line. It praised mumsnet for bringing attention to a storyline.

I saw a film last year called "Eden Lake". In it a bunch of teanagers tortured to death a young married couple, slashed their mouthes with a stanly knife tied them up with barbed wire, burned a small asian boy to death and laughed about it and recorded all on their mobile phones. I was so disturbed that I contacted my local MP. I complained that the film content should never be considered entertainment in a civilised society. He asked the film classification board to re check the film. The matter went no further. The board is however, I believe, funded by film makers!
The matter went no further. After writing to the papers, and TV journalist all to no avail, I have had to give up as nobody appears to agree with my point of view. My point is that If this film is considered good entertainment by our main stream cinemas,then I am not surprised that some youngsters do the things that they do. Not long after this film was released there was a story in the news where two small boys tried to torture two other small boys to death, one was left for dead in a ditch. Very similar to the film!! Please would you mumsnetters review, and if you feel motivated do what you do best

Many thanks to you all. You probably do need to watch the film to fully understand my point, but I warn you it is very unpleasant.

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TheManWhoSoldtheWorld · 08/01/2011 15:47

either

StealthPolarStuckSpaceBar · 08/01/2011 15:47

Yes, I agree
In fact ifyou are temptedand I will give you a brief synopsis wich will help
I wis I had taken lula's advice

mayorquimby · 08/01/2011 15:59

no I don't think we should be trying to ban a fictional movie that has broken no laws in its production. If you don't like it don't watch it and tell others that you thought it was shite.
But I don't see why you should have the right to tell others that they are not allowed to watch it.

ILovePonyo · 08/01/2011 15:59

I've just read the wiki description of a serbian film. Yuk.

2shoes · 08/01/2011 16:00

no they shouldn't as it will just give more advertising to a dire film

AliceInHerPartyDress · 08/01/2011 16:07

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badcoverversion · 08/01/2011 16:20

I thought Eden Lake was a bold, interesting film and an accurate indictment of youth crime in Britain at the moment.

A Serbian Film is probably the first film I've actively boycotted...despite this, I don't believe it should be banned and I think the BBFC may have been a tad scissor-happy on viewing. I've been told by friends that the uncensored cut is laughably grim and the prosthetics used for that scene are so unrealistic that it's hard to be outraged or even repulsed by it... according to a couple of friends many of my own personal favourites are more disturbing but it's the intent of ASF that's questionable. That being said, the last 15 minutes are supposed to be a rather hard slog.

Malificence · 08/01/2011 16:49

I thought we'd come on in the last 30 years.
People were saying the same thing about The Exorcist film, I saw at at 14 and thought it was hilariously funny and not in the least bit scary, even back then.

I take it that no one else has seen Mum and Dad then? I assume it was based on the Wests and their predilictions .

Does the OP want traditonal fairy tales banned too, after all, they are extremely violent social commentary for the most part.

Mummy2Bookie · 08/01/2011 16:51

Mumsnet cannot ban this movie as it would be interfering with peoples freedom .not that I want to watch this movie or anything.

InPraiseOfBacchus · 08/01/2011 23:55

Every time you call for something you don't like to be banned, you are destroying freedom. This film will NOT be pumped out into the streets for everyone to look at. It will be clearly labelled and available for viewing for people who wish to see a PERFORMANCE of FAKE violence done by ACTORS. You can ignore it if you choose, and it won't affect your life.

You're obviously spurred on by the current smugness and out for another power kick. You're NOT the "oppressed masses".

BoysAreLikeDogs · 09/01/2011 00:06

what do you mean by current smugmess, please, Bacchus

cupcake001 · 09/01/2011 00:11

Ive seen Eden Lake and had no problem with it, was a bit shocking but really just another horror film, dont see the fuss tbh,
I did just google 'a serbian film' now THAT I dont think i could watch.

TheShriekingHarpy · 09/01/2011 00:13

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onimolap · 09/01/2011 00:19

In the early 1980s, when VCRs were still new, there was an outcry about video nasties, which led to many being banned - not because horror films shouldn't exist, but because these were vile.

I don't see what is wrong with being concerned about where limits lie.

confuddledDOTcom · 09/01/2011 00:22

The film is only going to be seen by people out looking for an 18 classification horror film. They know what they're looking for, they know it's not real and hardly likely to come away feeling educated.

Ragged, don't act like you're a regular when you've just said you only came here to troll. Why should we care that you don't like MN being almost unanimously unified on a subject when your dissent, like many others, comes from reading The Daily Mail and coming over here?

tethersend · 09/01/2011 00:37

If we're going to ban any film, can we make it National Treasure: Book of Secrets?

Because I just sat through that on BBC1 and think it might be the shittest film ever made.

It wants banning.

KalokiMallow · 09/01/2011 00:49

Sorry YABU.

The BBFC classifies films, you then choose whether to watch it. You chose to watch an 18 cert horror film. I assume it had this cover which has the words "one of the most provocative and terrifying thrillers of the year" on it?

The back of it also says "genuinely shocking".

What were you expecting? Confused

"My point is that If this film is considered good entertainment by our main stream cinemas,then I am not surprised that some youngsters do the things that they do. Not long after this film was released there was a story in the news where two small boys tried to torture two other small boys to death, one was left for dead in a ditch. Very similar to the film!!"

a) it is an 18, not to be watched by under 18s. In this case, if they were influenced by this film, it is whoever gave them access to it at fault, not the filmmakers.

If you honestly think it is the filmmakers fault for making it in the first place - just in case kids watch it, then do you believe that no material should be made that isn't suitable for under 10s? Because, by that logic, anything suitable for above that age might be seen by those under that age! Shock

b) If someone is the kind to inflict pain on others, then they will reach that conclusion regardless of what films they watch.

InPraiseOfBacchus · 09/01/2011 13:09

Agree with Kaloki - just as many people were killing each other horribly and for no reason before cinema/TV was even invented.

DurhamDurham · 09/01/2011 13:16

It seems that you want th film banned but are suggesting we all watch it first.
The problem isn't the film, the problem is stupid parents who let their children watch films that they should not be watching. It has an 18, I would say it's fine for adults to watch. Not my cup of tea but I didn't get the urge to go and kill someone after watching it either.

MainlyMaynie · 09/01/2011 13:32

Oh good. If we've moved on from censoring soaps to films, can we do books next? Perhaps we can have a burning.

southeastastra · 09/01/2011 13:33

surely op is taking the piss Hmm

Metherbumfit · 09/01/2011 13:43

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richrichrich · 09/01/2011 21:13

Well I feel educated about the mums of the UK.
Nearly 50 replys, many thanks. nobody agreed with the idea of a ban. I really am out of touch it would seem.

children burning other children alive, slashing the inside of someones mouth with a stanly knife!!!! When did the mums of the uk decide that they found this entertaining? not in the 70s and 80s when I grew up.

I assume that mumsnet is a cross section of average mums right?

What has made the mums of today so cold and calous compared to their parents generation?

is it still entertaining if you imagine your children in any of the roles within the film?

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wannaBe · 09/01/2011 21:28

which newspaper do you work for? Because your writing has a very journalist-like tone to it. Hmm

And it's amazing that you want this film banned yet you're happy to give us blow-by-blow descriptions of what happens in it - surely if it's too disturbing to watch, then it's too disturbing for me to have to read about, so kindly desist.

People have written books/made films for all eternity about horrible subjects films are certificated, most have a traylor and description available, so generally you know what you're up against before sitting down with the popcorn.

sleeplessinseatle · 09/01/2011 21:29

Toytown

Indeed. I could not even read the description. Wish I hadnt.

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