to hope this family have a lovely Christmas

[LaurieFairyonthetreeEatsCake]

evil daily mail story here

Yes, I wouldn't take out a £1500 loan to pay for Christmas but providing she can pay it off (like she did the last one) then it's up to her.

Have a lovely Christmas if you're reading (and your children are very beautiful)

sorry should have been 200% LOL here

YABU £21k in benefits? Of course I dont wish anything bad towards her wish her, her attitude seems appaling, instead of being greateful for what she recieves, she thinks its her god given right. So its ok for people to go out to work come rain or shine to pay for her and her family.

I hope that the governemnt stops this disparity between being on benefits and working, so it does not pay to be on benefits. Stop opening your legs woman, I expect she would feel differently if she had to go out to work and earn that money.

Well this woman was obviously happy to be interviewed by the DM and have photographs taken.

Yes she has loans which are going to be paid for by benefits not by her working.

piglet - when I start working next year I will get around that in benefits if I work around 20-25hrs a week. I'll get more in benefits working part time on minimum wage than I do on benefits now. Although obviously will also have to pay out 30% of my childcare costs out of the "extra" as well.

If there were not a benefits system in place, i bet she would have only stopped at ONE child with the father

Well it wont be paid for by the taxpayer now, i bet the daily mail paid her enough for her story to drastically reduce the loan she needs to take out!

I bet she wouldn't lolo - people in countries where there are no benefits don't just stop having children.

The article doesn't say that they went straight onto IS/JSA - just that they got a council house. He could have been working for all we know.

I have only worked for 1 1/2yrs (excluding my church music thing) in the last 11yrs. I have 3 children, I'm currently on benefits. My relationship when I had DS3 was decidedly rocky (posted about it on MN at the time). Should I have shut my legs in my during my marriage because I should have seen that 3 1/2yrs down the line I would e where she is now (except without the £1500 loan) - with a child about to start school next year and planning to return to work then - and in the meantime having to live on benefits??

yes because Im sure she had a crystal ball to see her ex would leave her alone with 4 kids

Lots of people on benefits right now are paying off credit with them. You think all those people who have ended up on JSA in recent years due to 100,000's of job losses had absolutely no credit accounts/credit cards/loans before they lost their jobs?

Or is it ok for those people to use some of their benefit money to pay off their debts and just not her (not that I think she's in any way sensible taking out loans/credit just for Christmas presents - I think she's nuts)

In terms of cash value she's on about £11k a year so god knows how she does it, she must be feeding those children on thin air or fiddling some how because the numbers don't add up do they ?

mama - expensive credit is how she's doing it.

I'll bet my bottom dollar (actually no I won't - I have bought the roast for Saturday yet ) that she's bought stuff on "credit accounts" and is thinking of those in terms of "bought" items as opposed to the actual "cash" loan she's taken out. Lots of people do it. Remember that money programme on TV a few years back with Alvin whatshisname - wher he sorted out people's finances - the amount of people who knew how much debt they were in with "loans" - but actually didn't have a clue about "credit accounts" (they simply hadn't factored them into their "debt") was really quite astonishing.

ignore my figures above,done them again and all wrong,have ask it to be deleted

actually theywill - you figures are wrong......and so are the DM's - she'd be getting slightly less than what they say in CTC, and a little bit more in CB......and that's just what I can see wrong to start with

I shudder at her line regarding giving kids whatever they want!

Wouldn't it be nice if just for once the papers would praise her for budgeting carefully with her benefits for the things they want instead of slagging her off.

What budgeting skills, getting kids what they want? As for those who are painting the DM to be some evil organisation exploiting people, this woman is clever she knew what she was doing, she chose to have an interview with them and have her photo taken, nobody is holding a gun to her head and making her do it! So reap what you sow.

absolutely zero budgeting skills to get a loan and she's not buying essentials, she's buying designer clothes etc..i hope those kids don't get picked on at school for their mother being so public about this

What is there to be picked on about the kids are getting everything they perceive to be of value do you imagine they are at school with those who are picking up the tab or the children who's parents have a similar mentality.
The only thing likely to happen to that family is a burglary after all someone will know where they live and she's told the world her place is worth robbing.

mum cant budget.over stretches her means,is materialistic.is bonkers

and as for this evil dm?oh give it a rest you read it, and linked it.does that by association make you evil?

we both work no way id spend £3000 on xmas.i know the value of money and we work ft.certainly dont live beyond means.unlike the mum in dm

a more resourceful responsible parent would ebay, make stuff,2nd hand etc. as parents we teach our children to live and cope in real life not la la land its on tick or provy

'Make stuff'?

Written by someone who has absolutely no idea what hell a child would go through in the playground in a hand-knitted jumper these days.

well i'd rather see an article on the kind of Christmas that scottishmummy suggests, that would be far more cheerier than a deluded young woman sinking deeper into debt, i find it v depressing, but that's just me.