To complain abut this childminder?

[ShanahansRevenge]

In my local playgroup there is a small bunchof childminders there... of them. All are childminders of little toddlers and these women stick like glue to one another...never mix in or chat...I did try to chat to one or two of them a few tmes and was met with cold one word replies.

They sit down on the sofas for the whole 2 hour session and are very loud and bitchy...scraming with laughter and whispering...they leave tiny crawlers and staggery toddlers to their own devices

One baby with them is around 11 months...he can walk well...he wanders off into the other room which is meant for ride-on toys and older kids... and invariably gets knocked over by bigger kids and one of the Mums always picks him up and carries him back to the coven group of childminders who sit their scoffing biscuits which they send their older charges to fetch.

I am thinking of complaining...they made me really uncomfortable yesterday...what with their bitchy whispering and the neglect of the kids...none of them have any kidsof their own with them...theirsare all in school I assume.

Thing is...this is a church group...so its all voluntary...if I knew the name o that baby's Mum I would bloody tell her how her son is treated. eft to cry with no comfort after another kid pushed him over...his minder never plays with him once...this is every week. I am pissed off...that somene is paying her to do this.

I would want to know if it was my son
I think you have to do something

Thanks....I am going to do school run now...will look later to see if any one else has thoughts.

"Not all posts are about events which occur on the same day!"

But you said yesterday

gives up.

It would do no harm to contact ofsted or even social services, if many people had concerns and none of them voiced their concerns the CM would carry on treating the children this way....if she treats them with such a lack of care and respect when in public how does she treat them when not in the public eye. IMO it would do no good talking to the group leaded, she would possibly not respect your confidentiality and generally the leaders are just lovely ladies who are willing to give their time to set up and clear away, not trained to recognise children being neglected. just my opinion, but as a mum I wold be devistated to find out my child was being treated so poorly...good luck

It's not the playgroup that's with Ofsted, it will be the childminder.... I think?!

I would say something to the CM. Next time the baby falls and isn't seen I would take the baby to her and suggest she keep a closer eye on him/her. Not much point talking to the playgroup as what do you expect them to do? Sadly I see this alot where I live. There are many good childminders but there are also alot like this IME.

I would also try and find out the names of the CMs concerned and complain to ofsted.

I'd complain directly to Ofsted tbh.

I don't think talking to the group leader is a good idea, it is no more her place to say anything about quite a serious subject than it is yours, and you would be putting her in a difficult position. Plus, if you let on that you are concerned and there are consequences, it will come back and bite you on the bum. I'd make your complaint completely anonymous.

Good idea Banana, dont focus on a child that isnt being properly looked after by its CM but on the fact that the OP got her days mixed up. That'll solve the problem wont it?

OP, would it be worth you asking any of the other mums if they know who the childs mother is, or even asking the group leader the childs name for your childs Xmas card list ? That way, with a bit of detective work you may be able to contact the mother directly rather than go in full force with OFSTED, which does seem a bit "Sledgehammer to crack a walnut" to me!

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Well said mummytoatribe, I do love the humphy face.

You like telling people off, don't you? Makes you feel all tingly and important inside.

Bless you.

banana....you're just being a bit weird now.

I said at the end of my last post to you...that if I had gotten the days mixed up I was just a bit of Mummy-Mind syndrome...being tired and stuff.

The you posted about my getting it wrong again...despite my explanation..so you looked pedantic and also like you never read my full post.

Now you just look rude and odd.

Well how would you feel if someone was bitching about your friends on mumsnet?

Why don't you just come out and say something instead of mithering on here.

banana....unless you are in fact one of the big lazy CCMs I am talking about...then you're a loon.

Since we established that my playgroup is not yours...nor on the same day as yours...you have nothing to worry about anyone "bitching" about your friends do you?

Why don't you bugger off to another thread f you don't like this one?

If it was my child being 'looked after' like that then I would want to know. I'd want ofsted to know too.

The cm sounds like a real bitch.

Banana

I actually can't believe you've likened her to Arnold Shcwarzenegger, that is just a repuslive thing to say.

You really are a charmer.

Thanks MiasMary....I tend to be a bt backward in comng forward over things like this...well it's serious stuff isn't it?

So as so many people have told me that I am in the right to be so concerned I will b doing something about it.

Are you a CM Banana ?

it's more repulsive to laugh at the children you are supposed to be caring for, to watch them wander off, fall over and basically do nothing to interact positively for them. when you are being paid to do so.

That is what I hated the most Lulumaam...the laughing out loud at him. A litte baby. He is a dear little thing too.

Banan....why? Are you built like a brick shit house too?

You need advice from other CMs.

More repulsive yes, if it wasn't complete and utter bollocks made up as an excuse to be rude about people and pass comment on their weight!

I have spent time at lots of toddler groups where there are CMS, many are excellent, some are okay and some are awful and behave in the way you have described. I have never reported anyone to ofsted (not enough evidence as such) but I have certainly warned people off using them.

Why Kangaroo? I saw what I saw and can draw my own conclusions.

This thread is very weird.

Shanahan, I think you're right to be concerned.

There's probably not much point talking to the leader of the group - she can't do anything. I would go straight to Ofsted.

If you are mistaken, and the quality of care is okay, then nothing bad will happen to these childminders, but if your instincts are correct and there are serious problems, then the welfare of these children is much, much more important than any possible threat to the livelihoods of these childminders.

I'm just starting to train as a childminder and am so very, very aware of the huge responsibility it is to look after somebody else's precious children. How horrible to think that cildminders are laughing at children and ignoring their needs - I mean, we all need coffee, biscuits and adult conversation but not at the expense of children who are relying on us!!

I am offput by the fattist remarks tbh