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To not want DDs uber rich friend for a sleepover

56 replies

THK · 28/11/2010 03:33

There's no problem with the child but I don't want to feel as though I have to apologise for what we have or haven't got! By normal standards we fair well but don't come anywhere close to this childs background.
Am I being too touchy???

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qualitystreetrosescelebrations · 28/11/2010 09:20

Just to add my YABU -
at the age of your dd, we were living on a private housing estate, where the houses were on top of each other, and the kids played out in the close, and there was no garden to speak of etc. My dd had school friends over who literally lived in castles, country piles etc. I felt the same way you did.

Then I would hear the other girls making comments such as -

you are so lucky to have friends just there to play with, my drive is a mile long, I have to be taken everywhere.

you are so lucky to have the freedom to be allowed out, my parents worry that someone will take me if they see where i live so i have to stay with staff

you are so lucky that your parents are so close that your parents can hear you in the middle of the night - my parents never hear me as its too far away Sad

And this went on with so many things.

It helped actually that they came to us first before dd went there, as she was already aware of the negatives, so she'd see what they had, and like it, but was also aware it wasn't all as great as things would first appear.

Supersunnyday · 28/11/2010 09:27

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magicmummy1 · 28/11/2010 09:28

yabu, definitely!

dd's best friend lives in a mansion. We have a nice but ordinary house. I was somewhat taken aback when I first dropped the little girl back home but I didn't say anything to dd and had no idea what she thought of it.

Then the other day, I asked dd if said best friend was going to another child's birthday party. dd said no, best friend's mum had said she couldn't go because they were too busy. Pause, then dd continues: "With the whole of that huge house to clean, it's not surprising that they never have time to do anything else, is it?!"

Children see these things differently from how adults see them. Let your child enjoy her friendship with this child and don't worry about the comparisons - they probably won't make them.

pagwatch · 28/11/2010 09:28

You are being really silly. And pretty bloody rude if you think about if for 2 seconds.
We have a lot of money and a big house and I care about who my dd is friends with in terms of their character, their friendliness and kindness. I don't give a shit what house they live in
I grew up in a tiny terraced house with 7 brothers and sisters... Am I likely to look down on people in small houses with little money?
I am a good mother and I am bringing dd ( and my others dcs) to value people, to be grateful for our huge luck in having some cash but to realise that the things in life that really matter have nothing to do with wealth.
Her friends make jokes about her being a princess because she lives in a castle but that is the only thing ever mentioned and that doesn't impact anyone. She doesn't care about anyone elses house - in fact she would prefer some of her friends bedrooms because they are cooler than hers .

Don't judge this girl and her parents. Firstly they may be lovely people who would not dream of judging you. And secondly being chippy and judgy about people based only upon what they have rather than who they are is a fucking awful thing to be teaching your child.
Get over it

Niceguy2 · 28/11/2010 09:33

Poor child. Discriminated against because she has rich parents.

I do fairly well in comparison to most where I live and badly compared to other areas.

My kids are all brought up to appreciate how lucky they are and not once have I heard them criticise another friend for what they don't have. The day they do is the day I tear them a new one.

Bonsoir · 28/11/2010 09:33

Some of my DD's classmates live in massive apartments crawling with servants. I don't think that those children have a better childhood than my DD!

Size of property is a very poor guide to happiness.

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ragged · 28/11/2010 09:40

I'll have her to stay. DD9 would love a rich friend, I bet they have ponies, DD would be over the moon for an invite back!

See how it goes, OP, DS11 has a very well-off friend but I've never felt like it was a competition what we treat our DSs to. Meanwhile DD9 has a good friend whose father is very generous, always taking them on outings, overspending and indulging his kids (imvho); yet that family is nowhere near wealthy. I find the less-wealthy-than-us friendship more awkward because I don't know if I am expected to spend as much on their DD when she comes to visit, I feel quite stingy by comparison precisely because we could easily afford to spend more on entertaining the girls, but then I don't perceive kids need much spent on them to just hang out and have fun.

EricNorthpolesChristmas · 28/11/2010 09:42

Most of my school friends were from well off families (private school scholarship) and I'm sure my mum felt like you at times, so I do get it. I also felt slightly embarrassed at times, of my parents' vehicles mainly! My friends were nice girls and would never have pointed out that our house was shabbier/colder/had no fancy technology/only one toilet etc. My mum used to hold her head up at prize day and things in her charity shop posh outfit! But that was a whole school of them, not just one.

chipmonkey · 28/11/2010 10:05

We live in a big house and my dsis lives in a tiny one. My boys love staying with her and ds1 said to my sis once "I love how we're all together all the time" which is not the case in our house as the rooms are very spread out.

sfxmum · 28/11/2010 10:12

I think you are being unreasonable seems to be more about your unease, just offer a warm welcome I doubt the child will judge
and if the parents don't object she is unlikely to be the type to notice such things

THK · 28/11/2010 14:03

I admit I sound pretty pathetic and I will just have to get over myself Blush
Normally I wouldn't let this bother me as my own children have a comfortable life, we have a nice home and ordinarily this wouldn't be an issue. I've always thought I was pretty grounded - until now! TBH I''ve surprised myself in admitting this is the reality. It's good to receive everyones comments as I wouldn't feel at all comfortable raising this with anyone who knew me so a dose of MN reality check is exactly what I needed.
Thumbscrew- yes her fathers very prominent and from an old banking dynasty.
Magicmummy- it was the drop off situation that has fueled my irrationality.

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usualsuspect · 28/11/2010 14:05

yabu

QuintessentialShadows · 28/11/2010 14:11

I understand where you are coming from. But, I have to echo the others.

However, please make sure your child knows that she should NOT divulge your salary to rich kid. Your child might actually think you make a fortune, and might want to impress Rich Kid. Neither should she ask rich kid how much her parents make, and how come they are so rich.

oh the embarassment..... Blush

Rachyandmeg · 28/11/2010 14:15

Thk,

That's the problem though you say your not competing but you are by creating an issue out of this. You say they are uber rich but how do you really know their circumstances? Looks can be very deceiving. Eg she could be mortgaged up to hilt, maxed out credit cards etc . Don't get into keeping up with the jones It is negative and a waste of time! Focus on your own life and family x

ChippingIn · 28/11/2010 14:16

Blimey - one of those rare creatures! A unanimous YABU and and OP who agrees - frame it quickly!!

Rachyandmeg · 28/11/2010 14:18

Worst thing people can do in life is compare themselves to other people. It hold you back ! X

Rachyandmeg · 28/11/2010 14:18

Worst thing people can do in life is compare themselves to other people. It hold you back ! X

Diamondback · 28/11/2010 16:06

Aah, if it makes you feel any better, my sister had an uber-rich friend at school and she used to love coming to our house, because she got normal food for tea (chicken and oven chips, or mince and potatoes) instead of wanky things in cream sauce that their chef made!

ModreB · 28/11/2010 18:06

YAB a bit U - but I get where you are coming from.

BUT - DS1 (now 20 yo) best friend came from a well off background, we were (an are still) quite poor.

But - he loved coming to us because we did fun things like making bread, digging in the garden to get our veg for tea Shock , going on the bus (instead of in the car) when he had NEVER BEFORE at the age of 10 yo been on a bus, Shock etc, etc.

I still get a huge hug when I see him, he did things with us that he never got the chance to do in his own pristine designer house.

DS1 also loved staying over with him in luxury Grin

MisSalLaneous · 28/11/2010 18:28

I'm sometimes embarrassed about lack of rooms when family from their 5-bed mansions come and have to sleep in ds's room / inflatable mattress in the front room - but that is my issue, not theirs. I always offer our room, but no-one wants to take us up on it - and really, after the first 5 minutes, I forget about it and we all have a great time.

It's mostly only adults that care about these things anyway (and in the majority, if not all, of cases, the person with the smaller property).

When I was small, all the grandchildren used to go to our grandparents over the Christmas holidays. One year, my cousin brought a friend with. She must have been around 15, and only when she looked really embarrassed when she didn't know how to make a cup of tea did it dawn on us (and even then, only after a throughout explanation and double check) that she has never made one herself - they always had staff that did that. This was the loveliest girl, and we became close friends. Having rich parents, a huge house, sports cars and staff is not something to be embarrassed about, as long as you raise your children knowing that none of that makes you any better than others. At the same time, for those of us that don't have it, to teach them that, again, the lack thereof makes no difference to who we are.

fireblademum · 28/11/2010 21:13

interesting. my 2 best school friends were very different, one lived in a tiny cramped terrace and didnt have a telephone (i thought it was just an eccentric choice at the time, i now realise they couldn't afford it), the other one lived in a mansion and had a boat and a pony. i loved them both equally because we did different fun stuff at each of our houses, and it was only years later did i realise just how rich the rich ones were, and how skint the poor ones must have been. explains my mums slightly odd attitude to the richer ones parents though!

Megancleo · 28/11/2010 21:43

Just wanted to add that my dd, 14 did a school exchange with a French girl who was very wealthy. Yes, the thought crossed my mind of how she would react to our very humble abode. She thought I was cool because i found time to play board games with them and visit places (her parents were generally jet-setting) and asked if she could visit again. Don't worry, just make all dc friends welcome and enjoy!

THK · 29/11/2010 00:23

Thank you all. You're right ( of course- I hear you cry)
She had told dd she liked me because I sat and talked to her about school. I think like many have said I'm overlooking the importance non material aspect and if both children have built a friendship then I should be happy for DD& not wallowing in my own insecurity.
( takes deep breath and decides to tell DD friend can come next weekend)!!!!:)

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NorhamGardens · 29/11/2010 10:29

Hmm, having been exposed to a few of the home counties 'rich' recently my judgement is probably a little clouded. We are far from in this position ourselves and am sure that the type I am going to describe are in the minority, however...

IMO there is a lot of 'private' snobbery in certain circles, we are talking about those who have made money in the last 10-15 years, are very well educated and live in the 3-4 million pound house bracket plus.

A lady was showing me her home and neighbourhood and told me with some raising of eyebrow and quiet sniggering that many of the locals simply couldn't really afford all that they had in so many words. Even those that appeared to have larger, older homes than herself were having to sell off part of the home I was informed.

Privately, she and her group definitely look down on the 'peasants'. I say privately as she would be the first to say these things didn't matter and all were equally welcome in her home. Many of the well heeled really do think like this. I have had the misfortune of meeting many over the years.

Of course whether you let a small minded, snooty minority get to you is another matter entirely. They are out there however.

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