to feel that nothing is off limits comedy wise?

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when I think of things that have really made me laugh some of them would be VERY offensive to some groups (mostly religious, and I believe in god)...I'm thinking about Sarah Silverman, Dennis Leary's no cure for cancer, Chris Rock etc etc.

Comedy is about offence to a certain extent isn't it as the funniest things are the ones that are closest to the bone, laughter relieves anxiety and therefore the graver and most serious something is (like the nazi's for eg) the funnier it can be (vis the producers for eg).

Dave Allen had it in for Catholics and my catholic mother used to weep with laughter at him. Derek and Clive take the piss about Cancer to great effect.

Now there are some 'comedians' that I think are shit: Bernard Manning springs to mind...but I don't think that banning them or censoring or protesting is the way forward, just don't view!

There are threads on here regularly about topics that mner's feel are off limits to comedy, most especially special needs. But I'm pretty sure that many special needs adults wouldn't appreciate being singled out as something that cannot be a source of humour...the ability to laugh at oneself including the tragedies and limitations of our lives is really important isn't it?

I maybe totally wrong, and maybe it's only ok if it is a special needs person doing it?

2shoes;

No, anything does not go in my world, the complete opposite if anything, ( I'm a conservative catholic)

But if I had a disabled child, I'd still be saying what I'm saying on this thread.

so would you find it funny for someone to take the piss out of your child??

I wouldn't take it personally.

Bernard Manning wasn't politically correct and the politically correct BBC removed him from their programmes. But unlike Frankie Boyle, who the BBC often allowed on their screens, Bernard Manning thought it was unacceptable to make jokes about disabled people.

This is from a BBC article after his death

"People of Pakistani, Indian or African origin, Jews, the Irish, they were all fair game to him. But in Bernard Manning's logic, jokes about disabled people, or tampons, were unacceptable."

See DP I don't believe that, because you were able to empathise with the poster who may or may not have lost his mum. I suspect if you had a severely disabled child, you would take those joke personally.

do dp if your child is being verbally bullied(and we are talking about the one you have and love) are you saying you wouldn't care?
cos that is what this is at the end of the day.

2shoes, daftpunk can't possibly answer the question accurately as she has no first hand experience. In the same way that a person who isn't a parent can't truly answer how they'd respond to a threat to their child.
She won't know until she lives it.

but I am talking about her child
not her fictional disabled child(which she would never have anyway)

Bernard Manning was actually a very charitable man, giving £1000's to charity. Just because you're a comedian who tells a few dodgy jokes, doesn't mean you're a terrible person. He probably had a lot more empathy than some of the pseudo Mother Teresa's on here.

I'm a very kind considerate person, I just think comedy is an outlet for a lot of people - a way of breaking away from the usual constraints of everyday life.... just for an hour.

"I'm a very kind considerate person,"

now that is a funny joke

She probably is to those within her circle, and those she deems acceptable. Just not indiscriminately kind and considerate.

It doesn't matter what kind of a person Bernard Manning was. The idea that we are going to excuse someone's behaviour because we are actually interested in their moral character is nonsense.

He was a comedian in the 70's. He wasn't proclaiming to be saviour of the world.

Get a grip.

Good, we're in agreement them. We're discussing the jokes not the comedian's character.

Did you think Marlon Brando and Al Pacino were really gangsters?

what about anti catholic jokes?

Yes, what about jokes about priests and children?

Comedy wouldn't exist if you couldn't take the piss out of people. DP

True people who are fair game because of their behaviour not circumstance beyond their control.

People who are fair game:
Politicians and Nick Griffin(not the same thing)
Media types
Slebs
Religious nuts (homophobic sect in the States for example)
Anyone who acts like an idiot
Bigots
Racists
Homophobes

See there are lots of people to take the piss out of.

Funny Nick griffin joke there :o. Made me

dp you remind me of Jedward on Buzzcocks. You just miss the point so often. Subversive comedy (a la the office) is about people's response to disabilities and race.

Bernard Manning didn't just tell harmless jokes he was an out and out racist, sexist twat. He told stories about offering a black guy a lift home when it was pouring, pulling up to him in the rain and then driving off. Only complete fuckwits found Bernard Manning funny.

I've probably heard all the jokes about Catholic priests and children - and whilst I don't find them in anyway funny - I will not be writing a letter to my MP complaining about them.

Look, you can take the Bernard Mannings off the telly/radio and out of mainstream media, but you will never stop people swapping jokes about minorities/ religion / or anything else they want to joke about.
Frankie Boyle is consumer driven. he's a product of today's society and what people want. years of listening to 'up his own arse' Ben Elton is enough to drive anyone into the arms of FB.
How many jokes went around after George Michael got sent to prison a few weeks ago?

George Michael jokes, not that I heard any, were possibly talking about his behaviour.
Ben Elton, along with Russell Howard, was the funniest live comedy I have ever seen.....

Frankie Boyle is quite off the boil since those horrific disablist jokes. If your audience is middle class and educated you can start off with knuckle close humour but go too far and your audience disappears.

And you are so condescending. Intelligent adults can distinguish between humour and reality,

countries with the worst attitudes to minorities ( homosexuals and the disabled) have never heard of Frankie Boyle.