to complain about Peter Kay's 'Autism' joke ?

[densekay]

BBC One show last night, Peter Kay enters studio flanked by a couple of Children in Need 'Pudseys'. Peter Kay falls prone on floor & flails arms etc. Jokes he is 'autistic'. Laughter.

Not on iplayer, been cut. Very offensive so not surprised.

Is he that dense that he can't see it as unreasonable to get a cheap laugh from those with a condition that benefit in many ways from financial aid supplied by Children in Need?

Google throws up he often jokes at expense of those who are Autistic.
But on a show with Pudsey?

I think it not unreasonable to not only complain to the BBC but also wish a child with autism on him & his wife, maybe he would be less insulting.

that's erzackerly what I did SoH

I like Tim Minchin too

Why is he so disliked in the industry then?

where did the OP go?

It would seem fc is insistent that having got into that position on the 'pouffe' Peter realised it looked like he was having a meltdown (is that even correct??? I don't know much about autism) and when calling for a VT he said 'autism' because that's what he thought his shenanegans would look like to the viewers.

I disagree. He was being stretched as a 'warm up' and was doing vocal warm ups and generally horsing around. He thought, as on similar televised charity events, that that would be the point when they would cut to a VT about a serious issue. So that's what he said. I don't know why he said autism. Would it have been offensive if he'd said 'cystic fibrosis' or 'young carers?'

The guy that did the Max and Paddy series withhim was on Raio 5 and was asked about that.
he was a bit reluctant tbh but conceeded that he never sees Peter Kay any more and confesed that they did have some difficulties when Peter Kay was awarded a screen writers award for the series.
As he co-wrote the seies with Peter Kay he was a bit miffed at the accpeptance and the speech which apparently made no ref to the co-writers at all

No, but you can deduce intent from context.

If you are worried about the OP then I am quite happy to post my complaint letter and response when it arrives here as an OP, which I know will appear in Google search results if worded correctly, as MN often does, to balance that out.
Not that it will necessarily refute "Peter Kay make horrid jokes about autism" because my complaint we be written to the effect of believing that is what he has done, but my letter will be more accurate than the OP.

BifTuna

I am inclined to agree ( having found it) . The subsequent refeernce to 'Pebble Mill on acid' seems to confirm that that was the joke he was making
Pebble Mill was endlessly riduculed for " what a terrible tale of premature death in a highly promising young athlete. But now here is a dog on a motorcycle' type linking.
I think he was joking 'this is bloody bizzare - quick, cut to something serious'
Nothing in the stretching stuff resonated at all with autism or seizure or anything vaguely related.
Well not to me anyway.

And I am know for being bloody chippy about ASD

and where did the OP go - she's new I see >>

and where are these others jokes about Autism that peter kay has made - my googling is letting me down and I'm not finding anything.

BigTuna - who is FC?
I don't know enough about the symptoms of cystic fibrosis to know whether he would've resembled someone with it, but if he did, then yes, it would've been offensive.
As for "young carers" obviously not, as he is (apparently) younger than Alex Jones and Chris Evans, unless he meant it as in his charges running rings around him.
If he had said "carers" in general, then yes.

I can't find anything else relating to Peter Kay and autism either so thought that was an odd thing to say.

Richard Herring has slagged him off on his podcast

he's not deemed to be very generous with his time or wealth

forevervacuuming - heh, I don't know why I wrote FC.

If you think Peter Kay intended to link his position and actions with the presenters with someone who has autism then you are free to complain about it. Would be interesting to see how they respond to that actually. And if they had any other complaints about it (from people who actually watched it rather than just reading the OP, obviously).

So we're agreed then... Tim Minchin is brilliant?

I've just watched on a bit and yes, he is making a larger joke about the dichotomy between the serious and the fun on these types of shows. He references it a couple of times.

I cannot bear this Ricky Gervais made a similar fuckin' stupid 'joke'x1000000000000000 about M.E - try living with it Joker that will soon stop your laughter.

But Peter Kay isn't making a joke about autism - he's making a joke about THE ONE SHOW

he is WORSHIPPED in the north west, let me tell you

I read the Op, and thought fromt he wording that Peter Kay was down right wrong and I was that he would do that.

I then watched the linked programme to see what he did, and I really don't think he meant it in the way the Op perceived.

I have a DS with autism, and took no offence whatsoever by PK'c comment. I don't think it was meant in anything other than a joke (not against autistic people) to take the attention off him doing those unsightly stetches.

I have seen PK live a couple of times, he is the most inoffensive comedian I have seen. He just doesnt joke about disabilities etc.

Jimmy Carr on the other hand. Vile. Offensive to the extreme.

I watched it last night and agree with Pagwatch et al, it was a joke about the juxtapositioning of items on the One Show. I did think at the time though that even mentioning the word 'autism' would prompt someone, somewhere complain about it. I suspect Chris and Alex thought the same which is why the looked a bit awkward.

Ok, OP back again, had to go out after posting.

It is not on the clip, as said been edited out.
It happened right at the start & by the look on Chris Evans face I reckon he realised right away how 'off' it was.

I don't think I should be sitting watching a BBC early evening show with Pudsey bear & see behaviour like that regarding autism or any other disability. (maybe Kay tongue protruding getting laughs about being Downs?)

My autistic son was on the pc so thankfully missed it. I have not seen Kay's comment later in the show as changed channel. Sounds like he was referring to his earlier 'joke'.

It must have been only about 1 minute and a bit in, so the person who was matching & missed it could be 'cos they didn't see from the very start. I don't know, all I know is what I saw.

As for the lovely mumsnetter who said I was 'cuntish' for thinking he would maybe be more empathetic if he had a child with autism himself, well if it means he stops insulting all with autism, especially on family TV, I'm willing it on!

densekay - how come no-one else that watched the show (on this thread) noticed this bit that has been "edited out"???

Agre and why didn't you mention the second part in your opening thread. It's all very odd.

It was a very quick quip, if I didn't have a son with autism myself I probably wouldn't have picked up on it.

You didn't express it like that though: you wished it on him and his wife. That is a bit unpleasant in its intention, by the phrasing, but also unpleasant in implication, as it suggests that children with autism are one of the worst things that can happen to a parent. Not your call to make, really.

I only found out about the second part reading here!
Can't really be bothered watching it but, as I said, sounds like he was referring to his earlier 'quip'.
Shall maybe watch it now.