AIBU to feel totally bemused and think 'you smug twatters'

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of the family who, when given the homework as set out below, came back to school after half term with properly packaged; foil wrapped; paper sleeved; fully printed complete with allergies and ingredients; home bloody made frikkin chocolate bars for the whole class?

This was the homework:

Design a chocolate bar wrapper, draw its net, colour it in and stuff.

They took 'stuff' waaaaaaaaaaaaay too far imho.

Upahill - that is us too! Which is partly why ds is refusing to do the mosaic pattern. I'm not going to force him to do it, he is only 6 !!!

Really not sure that anyone in our school is quite so keen . Except maybe me, wonder if I can put my name on the back! Made by ds's mummy age 38 and a half.

When I was at primary school I always wanted my Mum to help and she always said it had to be my effort. I never won.

If it had been me (ie the chocolate bar parent) I would have put a Fairtrade mark on the wrapper as well, thereby offering an opportunity to impress on child the inequities of global capitalism

If the kids were truly involved in doing the project, how brilliant for them to make a chocolate bar.

ha ha! That makes me laugh tbh!

A few years ago my dd's year were asked to design & make a Christmas hat.

I helped DD make a cone & she put tinsel & small baubles on it.

Most of the kids had similar things.

In wandered one child plus mother. It was an entire nativity scene. It was also massive & no way could the child have placed that on his head for a few seconds. It was also perfect.

I didn't give a shit. I was quite jealous as I don't have an artistic bone in my body!

some of you will weddle up any story of architect built models and damien hirst art project to prove some daft point

some folk go the extra mile so what

blimey.

So what?

Well, what's the point in homework if the child goes nowhere near it?

and yes is also self evident to teacher whether 8yo maximus completed task or his dad

homework shouldn't be used as a tool to show off. there's always scope to be creative within the boundaries of the assignment. who does it help to go so over and beyond the remits? the child? nahhhhh

yes and bellyaching quality/origin of homework is dull.taechers know the real deal.they can tell age appropriate efforts as opposed to mum and dad.which is why getting drawers in twist is pointless.

actually blinks, as i said in an earlier post, the child can learn a lot more from being involved in a bigger project than doing an entire smaller project by themselves and I think that is worthwhile - even if the final product isn't 100% their work.

must the bigger project be taken into school?

What about when it's 0% their own work though?

I'd imagine it must be quite frustrating for a teacher when a pupil only ever brings their parents' work in.

oh i see we're not supposed to mention it as it's dull to do so. i hadn't received that memo.

I sense a bit of the 'it's the teacher's job to teach the children' attitude in the posts that say that they shouldn't be involved in the homework. Why shouldn't you be? If you have an opportunity to expand on a project with your child, go above and beyond the expectations and teach them something new in the process then why wouldn't you? Why is it up to the teacher to be the one that challenges them and stretches their minds constantly?

Well if it's relevant to the project blinks why wouldn't you? The attitude in this country stinks - everyone is afraid to show that they are good at something in case they are seen to be 'showing off'. Let's all just be mediocre then lest we offend someone

you sense wrong

Bubbley you're missing the point most posters are making - they aren't saying parents shouldn't get involved and expand projects with the child, they're saying (I think?) that parents shouldn't go in all guns blazing and take over

Scottishmummy - what is the child going to learn if their parents do the homework? Wouldn't it be better for the child to do it mainly themselves, with a bit of help where needed, and get praise from the teacher for their efforts?

And I suspect the majority of parents have stories of easter egg or easter bonnet competitions or homework assignments where the parents have clearly done all or almost all of the work - and yes, of course the teachers know - but even so, the child is missing out on achieving something themselves.

Bubbleymummy - the point of these projects should be that the child gets to demonstrate that they are good at something - if they do hardly any of the work/design etc, and the parents do almost all of it, then it is the parents who are demonstrating what they are good at - how does that benefit the child?

The teachers can tell if a child has done the bulk of the work themselves, and will praise accordingly - so the child whose parents have done the project for them will actually lose out on the opportunity to get praised for their own efforts!

And is it a good lesson to teach them that mummy and daddy will do their homework for them?

Glad to see you disagree blinks -So when you don't go 'over and beyond the remits of the assignment' is it because you don't think your child will benefit from the extra education they would receive through doing so (it would be strange if they didn't) or is it because you don't want to appear to be showing off (which is pretty sad) or is it because you don't have the time or inclination to do so but need to justify that?(perfectly possible that this is the case for many working parents and there is nothing wrong with it until they start mouthing off about how pathetic it is that other children's parents do get involved)

read my posts,i dont agree if parent did maximus homework.but overall teacher can also tell age appropriate work

so getting worked up about it is a so what.as teacher wont confer special staus on that kind of project

and fwiw,many parents to contribute without undertaking-that is agood thing

that's bollocks bubbley. maybe the child's own efforts wouldn't be 'mediocre'.

You're not challenging or stretching anyone's mind if they're watching TV and you're welding tinsel to a scale model of the Statue of Liberty made out of coathangers....

actually i am a total show off in life, my day job relies on it but when it comes to school, i'd rather my child learn properly, rather than being a vessel for my desire to impress.

Of course it's the teacher's job to teach. That's the point of teachers. I might talk to my DC about their projects, and give them a hand when they're struggling but I don't see why it helps them to take over the teacher's job. It may be that I miss the point completely and end up sabotaging what the teacher's trying to teach.

I strech and challenge the children in what I'm knowledgable about and leave the experts to teach what they know most about. Come to think about it if I did the kids craft projects for them they'd look worse than they do when they do them - I'm not very practical when it comes to crafts!