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To think that it is the job of the lunchtime supervisors to clean the lunch hall, not year 6 pupils?

222 replies

tulpe · 01/11/2010 23:30

DS came home from school today telling me that there has been a new rule implemented for lunchtimes. Apparently, each week two year 6 pupils will sweep and clean the floor of the hall at the end of lunchtime. Poor DS was almost sick after being one of the 2 chosen for this week.

I find it appalling actually, tbh. Not because I think "oh precious DS shouldn't be clearing up" but because it is hardly fair to expect 2 children to clean up after 100 children have eaten.

AIBU to think that this is a job for the lunchtime supervisors and not two 10/11 year old children?

AIBU to tell the headmistress that DS will not be doing this job this week nor for the remainder of his time in the school?

OP posts:
mamatomany · 02/11/2010 09:29

I would hit the bloody roof, no wayshould the children be doing anything but playing in their playtime. Outragous.

tulpe · 02/11/2010 09:30

Okay people. This has gone from discussing the topic to slagging off me and mine. Nice.

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expatinscotland · 02/11/2010 09:31

Start a thread in AIBU. Then get stroppy when people say, 'Yes, you are.' Come on and tell them, 'Well, I sorted it my way so that's it done.' When people continue to comment, come back on and get stroppy.

Says it all really.

BalloonSlayer · 02/11/2010 09:31

At our local secondary kids have to do that - as lunchtime detention, ie it's a punishment.

tulpe · 02/11/2010 09:32

erm no. I listened to everyone's comments. DId I not say in a post this morning that I could see the perspective of with those who had a differing viewpoint?

But to start calling me uptight and to say my son will make a shite husband. Not nice and not relevant.

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cory · 02/11/2010 09:33

They don't have to stop playing at playtime: it's a rota. It's not every day.

In our school there is a rota for answering the phone in the lunch hour. Again, I suppose it keeps them from playing, but as long as it's not every lunch hour, it doesn't seem a massive problem to me.

I don't hear anyone hitting the roof because schools provide computer clubs or music or g&t clubs or Latin clubs in the lunchtime- though those things also keep children from playing.

expatinscotland · 02/11/2010 09:33

Whatever, tulpe. Start a thread in AIBU, that's what you get.

tulpe · 02/11/2010 09:35

right, so the topic itself is irrelevant? Lets all jump in and slag off the OP on a personal level? I thought the purpose of AIBU was to discuss a topic.

You live and learn.

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LoopyLoops · 02/11/2010 09:35

Not nice perhaps, but hugely relevant.

expatinscotland · 02/11/2010 09:36

Very hugely relevant, Loopy. Just look at the Relationships topic for evidence of that.

'It's not my job.'

southeastastra · 02/11/2010 09:36

aibu does bring out the worst in people for some reason. seems to be a licence to be arsey.

think it's quite interesting discussion though, in theory clubs etc shouldn't be at lunch - children should have a period of completely free play within the school day.

jpg · 02/11/2010 09:37

well said expat, op YABVU Grin

It is one week in his lifetime so far, thank goodness mummy is there to bail him out, great role model Hmm

mamatomany · 02/11/2010 09:37

No wonder we have so many fat figgerty kids at state primaries when the heads think teaching them to sweep up is more impoortant that burning energy so they can concerntrate in the afternoon and burn off what they've just eaten. Says it all if you ask me.

Rocketbird · 02/11/2010 09:37

I think it's a great idea. Children help clear up the mess they made. DD is only 2 and if she drops things on the floor, she clears it up. I am happy to be a loving parent providing a safe and warm environment to grow up in, but I am not her slave and neither is anyone else.

Disclaimer: I am only talking about the boxes full of Happyland or toast crusts/bits of pasta. She doesn't scrub the front step neither do I or things like that :o

Rocketbird · 02/11/2010 09:38

mamatomany don't be silly.

LoopyLoops · 02/11/2010 09:39

Cleaning burns calories Mama.

southeastastra · 02/11/2010 09:39

avoid aibu tulpe unless you want all the hormonal harridans people who are feeling a bit arsey to jump on you

CerealParliamentaryArsonist · 02/11/2010 09:39

in japan they clean the loos too.

expatinscotland · 02/11/2010 09:39

'No wonder we have so many fat figgerty kids at state primaries when the heads think teaching them to sweep up is more impoortant that burning energy so they can concerntrate in the afternoon and burn off what they've just eaten.'

Cleaning burs calories. Plenty of Y6's around here sit around drinking fizzy juice in the play yard, not running about burning energies. Or go in and play on the computers.

Maybe instead of cleaning they should send staff out to the play yard with brooms to beat children to make sure the pupils are all exercising.

expatinscotland · 02/11/2010 09:40

Cereal! Shock What a breach of their human rights!

emptyshell · 02/11/2010 09:41

Half of the teaching time lost in schools is lost sorting out stuff that's kicked off at break/lunchtime (particularly lunchtime). By the time you've sorted out who said what to who, and calmed down the kid with behavioural difficulties who's been wound up by it all - half the first session after lunch is gone sometimes!

LoopyLoops · 02/11/2010 09:42

I would hazard a guess that the fat children tend to be those whose parents do everything for them and give them no responsibility, getting cross when school tried to get them to be a little more independent.

southeastastra · 02/11/2010 09:42

it has been proved that letting children play and sort out their own problems at school lunchtimes cuts down alot those issues emptyshell

GuyFawkesIsMyLoveSlave · 02/11/2010 09:44

I think the overall idea is a good one, but don't think children should be on the rota for a whole week at a time; if it were one day at a time then they'd have to do it around once every three weeks.

And I think it's entirely possible/probable that children will be more careful about mess if they know that other children in the school have to clear it up, rather than it being something that just magically happens.

Deliaskis · 02/11/2010 09:45

I also think YABU and a bit precious TBH. We did a range of chores at primary school in the older years, some of which took up some or all of our lunchtime. It taught us to have a bit more pride in our school environment and take responsibility for keeping it clean and tidy, also to have a bit more respect for the job some of the support staff did. I don't think sweeping up (which is unlikely to take the whole lunchtime) is really that big an ask.

Like one of the posters above (I forget who), I expect my Brownies to clear up after themselves, and most of time they fight over who gets to use the big brush. They absolutely know that the messier they are, the more clearing up they have to do. Good lesson IMO.

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