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To want to train as a surgeon in order to remove Nicks head from Daves arse?

56 replies

Hedgeblunder · 27/10/2010 13:16

I'm so sick of seeing house of common discussions with Nick smugly nodding along with whatever Dave says no matter how draconian/ridiculous.

Today he was just sat there smirking along, whilst the government decided they're going to cap housing benefit, which will be pretty catastrophic for people in london, when milliband pointed out that the conservatives are already bookig up b&bs ( for the amount of people who will be made homeless) he just sat there. No argument.

this isn't a thread About benefits at alllll, it's been done to death now. I'm just fucked off that I voted for such a snivelling David cameron shagging yellow bellied Idiot.

OP posts:
NoelEdmondshair · 27/10/2010 13:26

Clegg just looks absolutely amazed to be in government!

YANBU.

Miggsie · 27/10/2010 13:28

Dear girl, 'tis not possible as they are two cheeks of the same arse now.

MumNWLondon · 27/10/2010 13:30

Sorry no £20,000 a year is enough for anyone, you'd have to earn around £70k-£80k per year to afford that unsubsidised (once you take into account income tax, council tax, costs of living.

Housing benefit has priced hard working families out of central London, and has enriched private landlords.

I live in zone three and for £400 a week you can rent a reasonable 4 bedroom house. I don't see what the fuss is about.

emy72 · 27/10/2010 13:30

YANBU.

I have always felt unsure about the Lib Dems but now oh now I hate them more than the Tories.

Nick Clegg should be ashamed to be called a politician, he clearly did not go into politics for the right reasons.

(How can you go back on everything you say you stand for just to have a sniff of power is beyond me).

huddspur · 27/10/2010 13:32

YABU a coalition with the Conservatives was the only option that the Liberal Democrats had after the elction. A coalition with Labour wouldn't have had a majority and would have relied on the nationalists. In my opinion this would have been disastorous and would have led to England bearing the blunt of the cuts.

emy72 · 27/10/2010 13:35

Huddspur, I agree with you - however Nick Clegg could still show he has his own opinions, some of the time. He has become a complete clone of DC.

He could still agree to policies but express a variety of differing opinions, especially when it comes to going back to his own manifesto/political agenda he was ELECTED on.

To me it comes across as he has made his choice between his beliefs and his voters vs ppower.

huddspur · 27/10/2010 14:01

Clegg has to support the policies of the Government as he is the Deputy Prime Minister and the leader of the smaller party in the coaltion. He can't come out and criticise Government policy not least because he helped formulate it.

Itsjustafleshwound · 27/10/2010 14:04

Nick's head from Dave's arse - I hope you will make a better surgeon than pendant Wink

No one party got the mandate - at least there is some opposition and co-operation/discussion to policy (living in hope)

weblette · 27/10/2010 14:06

DynoRod may have some super suction device which would work just as well...

lerole · 27/10/2010 14:33

I agree with Huddspur, all those you are having a go at Clegg seem to be forgetting that a coalition with the Conservatives was the only way to form the stable Government which we need in these testing times.

OkayGrrl · 27/10/2010 14:38

Yanbu, I hate myself for voting the Lib Dems I actually thought they had a chance, I'm an idiot!

Glitterknickaz · 27/10/2010 18:16

Not possible, Nick's tongue and Dave's rectal passage are as one, irreversibly joined.

popelle · 27/10/2010 18:24

What would all the people who object to the coalition have done had they been in Nick Cleggs position?
Given that a stable Government needed to be performed to assure the markets

emy72 · 27/10/2010 18:30

But you can still be honest and justify your choices to the people who after all elected you in good faith on the basis of your suggested policies.

I would have liked for him to take off his mask and say to people "we are not going for what we believed in originally because of x y and z" - I think what annoys people who voted him is that he has made a total U turn on certain policies and just keeps nodding and smiling. He has lost credibility.

Obviously not with everyone, but definitely in our family!!!

popelle · 27/10/2010 18:33

He's made a uturn on some policies because he is the leader of the smaller party in a coalition. The vast majority of policies being implemented are Tory policys because they are the largest party in the coalition and due to collective responsibility all cabinet members are obliged to support them.

Glitterknickaz · 27/10/2010 18:35

Clegg is conceding waaaay too much to Cameron. It's not a true Coalition. Bearing in mind Clegg is a former tory himself that doesn't surprise me.

Clegg is too much of a power whore to stand up for the lib dem ethos.

Miggsie · 27/10/2010 18:35

The alternative would be Nick and Gordon...would that have been better?

popelle · 27/10/2010 18:39

Nick and Gordon wouldn't have had a majority so that was never really a viable option.

The coalition does have a lot of Lib Dem policies in it eg raising the tax threshold glitter

newwave · 27/10/2010 20:05

Hedge, agree entirely.

What makes me more angry with the LD's is that you expect Tories to act like unfeeling scumbags who dont give a fuck about anyone or anything except the rich and priveleged, they always have and always will, it's part of the Tory DNA.

Look at Thatcher, she bawled her eyes out on TV when her son Mark was lost in the desert during a car rally but did not give a shit about children in poverty, OAP's dying in freezing homes and the homeless.

We expected better from Nick and Saint Vince which is why it hurts more.

I have always voted LD but no more until Nick goes. As for "Danny" I want to stamp on his smug face with hob nailed boots.

HumphreyCobbler · 27/10/2010 20:11

I think Nick Clegg is living proof that it is terribly easy to pontificate from the sidelines in a morally superior manner. It all gets much harder when you are called upon to ACTUALLY make the decisions.

Labour were going to make cuts too. They have conveniently never mentioned what those cuts were going to be, thus maintaining the position of being for cuts in general but against them in particular. How nice for them.

newwave · 27/10/2010 20:17

Humphrey, I beleive your a Tory which makes you morally suspect and an unfeeling git as well :)

BatBrainsPumpkinHead · 27/10/2010 20:21

I have nothing to contribute to the debate. Just rofl at the title. thankyou.

dertitude · 27/10/2010 20:33

I beleieve that the current coalition was the only sensible option given the election result and it was inevitable that some of the Lib Dems policy commitments were going to be binned but that is all part of coalition politics

HumphreyCobbler · 27/10/2010 20:37

I could retort that you are a lefty, which makes you unintelligent and morally superior, but that would be far too rude newwave Wink

HumphreyCobbler · 27/10/2010 20:51

of course that should read
'under the impression that you are morally superior' Grin