The 'Promiscuity Jab'?

[Diamondback]

Argh, argh, argh, must stop looking at the Daily Mail as it always makes me cross, but today they were banging on about the HPV Vaccination again and stated that 'some refer to it as the Promiscuity Jab'.

Some? Who? Only the Daily Mail as far as I know. Good God, how many people here were virgins on their wedding nights? How many people working for the Daily Mail were? Do they really think we shouldn't protect our daughters?

And I don't recall getting the Rubella jab at twelve and thinking 'oh that's alright then, I'll go and get pregnant now I'm not going to damage my baby.' Why would we assume that little girls will be thinking 'i'll just go have unprotected sex now that there's a lower risk of my developing cervical cancer.' As if!

Gaaah! I just wish the Daily Mail would stop living in a fantasy world where we all still think our little girls will be virgins on their wedding nights and their DH's too.

Ah well, girls shouldn't have sex. Boys should have lots of sex with loads of different girls, because that's manly. But girls should remain virgins until they marry, or they are slags.

I'm not quite sure how that one works, but I am quite confident the daily hate subscribes to the 'boys + sex = stud, girls + sex = whore' school of thought. So it'll be a Bad Thing that's protecting girls from the Consequences of having naughty premarital slutty sex, instead of saving themselves like good girls should, for mr right.

Who will have sown his wild oats with who exactly?

Drives me bloody mental.

And this is the second rant I've had on here in ten minutes. I should probably go and get myself a cup of tea.

YANBU.

God forbid they should come up with a vaccine which actually prevents cancer. [hhmm]

Of course, their 'mistake' was to come up with one which is caused by a STI.

You really have to wonder how the DM's mind works sometimes.

One of my daughters friends parents refused to let her have it. I asked my daughter why and she said they had told her that nuns don't get cervical cancer.

I was totally amazed.

YANBU

YANBU. Good point about Rubella. And Hep. B which is now a routine childhood jab in most the world for newborns even.

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Don't know what else to say really.

The Rubella thing. EXACTLY. That's what I thought from the moment people started wittering on about this new vaccine being controversial. But don't start expecting logic from the DM.

What if her dd doesn't want to be a nun and wants to marry? She could get exposed that way.

It sounds like a very offensive article. YANBU I actually feel like banging my hyead against a wall when I hear people link the jab to girls having sex younger than they would otherwise. Like women who get cervical cancer must be slags. Bollocks. It can happen to any woman, young, old, black, white, virgin, not-so-much-a-virgin from what I can gather. I don't get the controversey at all.

Get jab: prevent cancer.

Don't get jab: increase chances of getting cancer.

Not rocket science imo. My DD will be getting it when she's older.

I would bet a lot of money that no one has ever thought - I won't have sex until I get married incase I get cervical cancer - I also bet no one has thought 'Oh well now I have had the cervical cancer vaccine I am safe to have sex'

Its just barmy - completely mad.

I bloody hate that they link getting cervical cancer with being promiscuous[hangry] It's so ignorant, and downright offensive!

I've had cervical cancer and it just upsets me that they continue to label it in this way. It sort of makes you feel like some are thinking, 'she's only got herself to blame'.

DD has had the first of the HPV vaccines a few weeks ago. I do not believe she is now going to rush out and drop her knickers for the nearest spotty teenage lad just because she has had this injection - in fact she is still at the stage where she thinks boys smell and are germy because they don't wash their hands after going to the toilet!

For me it was very important that DD has this jab because when I was just 17 years old, one of my close friends, who was just 18, and had a 6 month old baby...died from cervical cancer. If there is a jab out there that could prevent DD from suffering the way my friend did, damn bloody right she's going to have it!

As IF teenagers DONT have sex because they think they might get cancer in 20 years

If teenagers put that much forethought into sex we surely wouldnt have the highest pregnancy rate in Europe and soaring STD rates.

Just let them have the fecking jab. Who wants to watch their DD die of cancer?

I had an abnormal sear aged 17. I had had 1 sexual partner. my gp, when he told me I had been recalled told me It was possibly abnormal cells and probably cervical cancer and ''it was because I had obviously had a lot of sexual partners''.
I have never forgiven him.
If I had known then what I know now, I'd have sued the arse off him and got him struck off.
I had hoped things had moved on a little in the past 25 years...:(

Well, of course my DD will be a virgin on her wedding night, but she'll still be having the HPV vaccine.

My grandmother had cervical cancer and she was virtually a nun.

yanbu

the DM is being very U.

If it was only offered to Jade Goody when she was at school, her two little boys wouldn't be without a mammy.

My DDs will be having it without doubt.

YANBU. I'm a Year 8 form tutor and every girl in my form had it last week. Just wish it had been around when I was that age!

You know, wonderstuff, there might be some girls who think it's OK to have sex after the vaccination because they think they won't get cancer. They may also be the same girls that think they can't get pregnant because they only had sex once/did it standing up/it was the first time.
But I doubt that that would be the deciding factor for girls to start having sex any earlier than they would have done if vaccination was never an option, and as saffy says, cancer has no respect for any human.

I worked on HPV long before the vaccination was developed. I had access to publications which stated exactly how serious it can be if one of the carcinogenic virus types is contracted. I would not hesitate to vaccinate.

You can't expect anything reasonable from the DM. The fact that they are misleading their readers by implying the vaccination will make girls more promiscuous just shows their ignorance. Frankly it's an insult to people who have spent years of their working lives trying to prevent women developing a type of sexually transmitted cancer.

This makes me so angry.

I've no doubt the DM would be hailing it as a medical marvel if all teenage boys were being given a jab to prevent penis cancer if it were as prevalent as cervical cancer. And their fathers would be fighting for them to be first in line rather than worrying that they'd be pushing them headlong towards casual teenage sex.

Promiscuity my arse. If they're going to do it they will, regardless of contraception - as we all know - or the HPV jab. Since when did parents start to think that a hysterectomy or death would be a better option for their daughters in the long term than the chance that they might have sex before they were 21?

"Nuns don't get cervical cancer..." Oh. My. God.

So what if they don't? Maybe a daughter isn't going to be one. Or maybe that's wrong, and nuns merely have a lower rate of cervical cancer than the general population...

If anyone ever tries telling me this in real life, well... Actually, I damn well hope someone does try!

Sometimes women have unfaithful husbands. Even if you daughter does not have sex before marriage, her husband might have an affair or had had a relationship he has not told her about.

Honestly some people live in cloud cukoo land. Its a pity that the vacine could not be given to babies.