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The 'Promiscuity Jab'?

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Diamondback · 26/10/2010 15:24

Argh, argh, argh, must stop looking at the Daily Mail as it always makes me cross, but today they were banging on about the HPV Vaccination again and stated that 'some refer to it as the Promiscuity Jab'.

Some? Who? Only the Daily Mail as far as I know. Good God, how many people here were virgins on their wedding nights? How many people working for the Daily Mail were? Do they really think we shouldn't protect our daughters?

And I don't recall getting the Rubella jab at twelve and thinking 'oh that's alright then, I'll go and get pregnant now I'm not going to damage my baby.' Why would we assume that little girls will be thinking 'i'll just go have unprotected sex now that there's a lower risk of my developing cervical cancer.' As if!

Gaaah! I just wish the Daily Mail would stop living in a fantasy world where we all still think our little girls will be virgins on their wedding nights and their DH's too.

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Faaamily · 26/10/2010 18:20

The Daily Mail. Shame on you

Was the headline something along the lines of:

'Nice girls don't vaccinate'

or maybe

'Nice English girls don't vaccinate'

or even

'Nice English middle class girls who's parents aren't foreign prostitute benfits scroungers don't vaccinate'

or maybe just...

'If you vaccinate your daughter it means she's a SLAG'

It's the DM. Fucking morons.

NorthernSky · 26/10/2010 18:21

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tribpot · 26/10/2010 18:22

Can anyone remember if this kind of fuss surrounded the rubella jab when it was first introduced? I remember having it, and being vaguely aware that the reason was so that if I got pregnant the baby would be protected but in no way did it come across as anything to do with having sex immediately. It was just a jab, end of. (As is this one).

Oh, I know what's different. We're trying to protect ourselves, not babies. What a crime. I assume in the eyes of the DM we only have smear tests in case we have dependents.

TondelayooohSchwarlock · 26/10/2010 18:27

YANBU overall. But YABU to read the DM. I used to read Daily Mail Watch and that got my blood pressure up.

My mum had cervical cancer and obviously she is a right slut.

Tokyotwist · 26/10/2010 18:35

redflag · 26/10/2010 18:49

I think its very irresponsible of the daily mail to refer to the jab as the "promiscuity jab". Its frankly offencive to suggest a girl would be promiscuous because she has thought about her future health.
I don't accept for a second that a girl would have the jab and think "Oh good i can sleep with 55 men now!" That is just a stupid, if i had a daughter she would have it done. Same as any other vaccination.

EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 26/10/2010 18:57

Hecate - I know you're doubtful about calling yourself a feminist but I'm sticking my "excellent feminist post of the day" badge on you for your post below the OP :o

HecateQueenOfWitches · 26/10/2010 19:02

Catkinsthecatinthehat · 26/10/2010 19:31

From the article: "There is already evidence that the vaccine is giving some girls a false sense of security and leading them to think that because they have been vaccinated they are protected against the worst effects of sexual promiscuity and can therefore engage in casual sex without consequence"

Yes, because God forbid that women should be able to engage in casual sex without medical consequences. The dirty slags should die screaming in agony as cervical cancer is no more than they deserve.

terryble · 26/10/2010 19:51

There is surely no way any vaccinated girl would think she'd been "protected against the worst effects of sexual promiscuity"! Most young women don't even connect sexual activity with cervical cancer in the first place!

Quattrocento · 26/10/2010 19:54

I hate double standards.

anniepanniepears · 26/10/2010 20:03

My dd got the jag today and I met her friend and her mum in the supermarket I asked the friend how she felt after her jag her mum replied my dd didnt get the jag as she is not sexuly active I was a bit taken aback as my dd is only 12yrs old and neither is she sexualy active (hmm)

Pixel · 26/10/2010 20:04

I've just looked at the article in question, and while we should treat the whole 'promiscuity jab' thing with the contempt it deserves, what about the issue of girls being bribed with £45 HMV vouchers to get the jab? (which was what the article was really supposed to be about but got sidetracked in a typical Daily Mail way). My gut feeling is that this is wrong. Girls should be encouraged to think about their health, think about all the pros and cons and make a responsible decision about their own future, not do it because they get a voucher!
(slightly off topic, but not really iyswim!)

FeedMeSeymour · 26/10/2010 20:26

Unfortunately annie we can't legislate against stupid people, we can only hope that their DD's might take themselves to their GP's when they're older to get the jab before the damage has been done.

And Pixel I have no problems with them using gift vouchers. But probably because if I'd had a DD she'd have had the jab anyway. At 14/15 I thought I'd live forever. Now I'm 43 - and ancient according to my teenage self - I know better. I'd have taken the gift vouchers, had the jab, thought no more about it and more than likely the three of my high school classmates who've died from cervical cancer would've done the same and would still be here.

If only they could give this vaccine to girls when they're babies!

KnackeredCow · 26/10/2010 20:44

I bloody hate The Daily Fail. It makes me SO ANGRY [hangry]

So the Daily Fail says:

"One in seven schoolgirls admits the cervical cancer jab could lead to them becoming more promiscuous, a survey has found."

However, this survey was also reported by the BBC and guess what? The survey actually said something completely different...

"Eight in 10 girls say that having the HPV jab makes them think twice about the risks of having sex, a poll finds.

The findings may go some way to dispel concerns that the cervical cancer vaccine could make girls more likely to start having sex younger, say experts."

So The Dail Wail took one line out of context and reported on it. Why do they have such a campaign running against Cervarix? Perhaps the manufacturer upset them at some point.

pocketmonster · 26/10/2010 21:10

anniepannie she obviously doesn't realise that once her daughter is sexually active it is too late for her to have the jab as she may already have been exposed to the virus.

whenskiesaregrey · 26/10/2010 21:11

MollygoreR what an awful thing for your Dr to say to you.

crimsonpetal · 26/10/2010 21:15

Some nuns do get cervical cancer actually. So there.

GoreRenewed · 26/10/2010 21:19

Well funnily enough, I was very sexually repressed as a teenager. It made me very nervous about the opposite sex - not cautious, scared! My sex life has been very narrow which is OK I guess but I do wonder sometimes....If DD having this jab makes me more confident about her body and her sexuality I will be delighted! I want her to enjoy her body and learn as much as she can.

Discowife · 26/10/2010 21:29

I seriously doubt teenage girls every worry about cancer as an effect of sex. So don't suppose it make any difference to them at all, and certainly won't make them more promiscious.

Discowife · 26/10/2010 21:31

*ever worry

FeedMeSeymour · 26/10/2010 21:33

You're probably bored of me ranting on about my former colleague who died just before she was 21 of cervical cancer. She'd had the same boyfriend since she was 15, the same one she lost her virginity to.

Never mind the jab, that was before her time, her DM was one of those 'I'm not having a smear I don't want to know' types and it drove my colleague mad. She was denied the smear that could have saved her life cos she was too young.

So PLEASE if there is anyone on this thread who has ignored their reminder letter to go for a smear or who is putting it off or who is thinking about refusing permission for her DD to have the jab just in case she might have sex PLEASE think again and do the sensible thing.

Sex/cancer/sex/cancer?? Hmmmm. Difficult choice!

DialMforMother · 26/10/2010 21:46

I'm so depressed by this :(

becaroo · 26/10/2010 21:55

So if you get cervical cancer you must have been promiscuous??? Jeeesus!!

My SIL has just had laser treatment to remove abnormal cells from her cervix.....she has had about 4 partners (one of whom she was married to) and is 36. Promiscuous???

Let me guess, the article was written by a white, middle aged man?

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